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Offline Revolutionary

Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« on: May 11, 2016, 05:57:15 PM »
Today, I took a good Friend on a ride; he drove one of our machines, I in the other.
We took off, rode a while, and he told me that the rear end was squirrely in the corners. I had told him before we left that if he's in a corner, and there's loose pebbles etc, it'll slide real easy, so that's what I thought was going on. My friend, (who will be joining this forum shortly) is the MASTER of understatement.

We stopped, 35 miles into our ride, looked for some Morels for a little bit, when I noticed his right rear tire was flat. Real flat, not low, but gone.
So; we rode out of the woods to a county maintained road, (we can ride on them here legally) and we switched vehicles, so I could ride it the rest of the way home. I asked him if the ride changed, since we stopped to look for morels, and he said, "nope, same as before".

So; I drive the machine the rest of the way, probably another 15 miles, on the flat.   
"Squirrely"?
No, Sir. Dangerous.
You make a left turn & this thing will HAPPILY throw itself off the road to the right, no problem. I have no idea how this fella, who never rode a SXS before, was able to pretty well fly through the woods on it, for 35 miles....and he loved it. Wants one. Is going to buy one. Maybe today. He wanted all the links, so I sent them to him, including this forum.

Now, the rest of the story.
I call the dealer, because the tire's wrecked, I need a new one.
"$315.00 plus shipping, here in ten days, maybe more".
WHAT?
So, next he tells me he'll sell me Sedona Mud Rebels for it for $121 apiece, & I end up buying (2) sets of them on Amazon for $290.00 for a set of (4) tires, delivered. Now, I know these won't be top of the line tires, but I'm hoping they're not junk, they got pretty good reviews, anybody have bad experiences with them? They're radials, 6 ply, and that's good....

So, in the end, my friend, he rides my 800 EX for about 35 miles on a flat tire, and like a dummy, I didn't check it, just thought he was sliding around corners, is all. I think he was more like trying to save his own life.... :)

Tire store in town is going to put a tube in the malcontent tire so we can use it between now & the time the Sedona's get here.

Coming probably next week:
"For Sale, 8 ATV/UTV Tires, 4 are 26x9x14, 4 are 26x11x14, one has a tube in it, 500 miles on them, $400 OBO"

Now, somebody tell me; how much of a testimonial is it that a Guy goes & rides 35 miles on a flat, then goes to the dealer to buy one of these machines for himself? Huh?  ;)
« Last Edit: May 11, 2016, 06:02:37 PM by Revolutionary »
(2) 2016 CF Moto Zforce 800 EPS EX's
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Split Windshields
Big Rear View Mirrors
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Rear Cargo Boxes
ICE Anti Freeze
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Russian Doors!
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2016, 06:37:25 PM »
I can't believe the wheel is still usable after 35 miles of running flat...wow. Sedona makes a good and trusted tire. Way better then what these came with. You will be more then pleased.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

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Offline Revolutionary

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2016, 06:40:20 PM »
Yep, NMK, the wheel looks fine, no problem, the tire was chopped up some on the outside of the tread, I pushed on it & pulled on it once I was home & had it in the air, it was letting air come through the sidewall. It actually ran over 50 miles while flat, too. I think that the combination of there being only one rider with the idea that it'd take you for a hell of a ride if you're turning left made it to where not much pressure ever got on the tire itself, some, but not all that much. BTW; I was driving it at just over 40 MPH on the straight stretches on pavement....went straight, just NO TURNING.... 


Thanks for the info on the Sedonas; I wan;t real sure about them, but I didn't want to pay $1200 for a single set of tires, either...
« Last Edit: May 11, 2016, 06:48:38 PM by Revolutionary »
(2) 2016 CF Moto Zforce 800 EPS EX's
SuperATV:
Split Windshields
Big Rear View Mirrors
Big Side View Mirrors
Rear Cargo Boxes
ICE Anti Freeze
Twin Air Filters
Russian Doors!
SuperATV Bags on doors
Sedona Mud Rebel Tires
NMK's Famous Intake SYstem

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Offline Revolutionary

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2016, 12:05:40 AM »
Update on the rear wheel that was driven on for 50 some miles on a flat...we put a tube in the tire & it's fine, no damage at all to the wheel.

So....the point is, you can drive a CF Moto ZForce 800 EX on a flat, on the rear, on the opposite side of the driver, for (50) miles at least without wrecking the wheel. The tire itself is still good enough to stick a tube in & use it some more. (Sounds of clapping).
(2) 2016 CF Moto Zforce 800 EPS EX's
SuperATV:
Split Windshields
Big Rear View Mirrors
Big Side View Mirrors
Rear Cargo Boxes
ICE Anti Freeze
Twin Air Filters
Russian Doors!
SuperATV Bags on doors
Sedona Mud Rebel Tires
NMK's Famous Intake SYstem

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Offline allygerry

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2016, 02:14:54 PM »
Does anyone put in green "Slime" or other brand of stop leak? I use it on my zero turn lawn mower and other small tire applications. However for my ZForce I carry a couple of cans of "Flat Fix" because if the puncture is not too big it should seal the tire as it gets inflated. Hopefully getting off the trails and back home. Thanks in advance of any reply.

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Offline gfmoto

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2016, 04:29:41 PM »
Pulled mine out of the garage and front passenger side was low as its been doing and the back rear flat filled them up 6 hrs ago and they're still up.  Hmmm.
2015 ZForce 800EX
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2-4" spots
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UNI air filter
DIY rear window
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Roof extensions
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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2016, 07:43:21 AM »
Green slime didn't work for me and was a mess to deal with if you take the tire off. Can't use a regular plug until you get it all cleaned out too. Get a pug kit and a tube for nasty holes. You can tube a tire trailside. Take the tire off the machine, let out all the air or unscrew the valve, have your buddy run over the edge of it to pop the bead, put tube in, inflate, then enjoy the rest of your trip. Stubborn leaks at the bead? Use bead sealer. Auto stores stock it for tire shops but you have to ask for it. Most of the time it's in the back.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

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Offline Revolutionary

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2016, 08:42:06 PM »
That's really good info, Cosmos, helpful. I think I'll get a couple of tubes & stick them in the machines....what pressures do you keep your tires at?

Tire below is after 50 miles of driving on it flat, still amazes me....I guess because they're so light they just don't destroy flat tires like a car, huh?
« Last Edit: May 13, 2016, 08:44:57 PM by Revolutionary »
(2) 2016 CF Moto Zforce 800 EPS EX's
SuperATV:
Split Windshields
Big Rear View Mirrors
Big Side View Mirrors
Rear Cargo Boxes
ICE Anti Freeze
Twin Air Filters
Russian Doors!
SuperATV Bags on doors
Sedona Mud Rebel Tires
NMK's Famous Intake SYstem

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2016, 01:59:13 AM »
I run just under 10psi. My chuck doesn't start to show pressure until 10 so I stop when it wiggles. Don't forget to bring along a deep well socket and ratchet to get the tire off. They make extending ratchets, they pack small and have good leverage when all the way out.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline Revolutionary

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2016, 07:53:36 AM »
10 PSI? I think they (dealer) has mine set at 30 or 35 PSI, I'll have to check. What jack do you use (I figure you've already done the legwork to find the best/cheapest?)
Chris
(2) 2016 CF Moto Zforce 800 EPS EX's
SuperATV:
Split Windshields
Big Rear View Mirrors
Big Side View Mirrors
Rear Cargo Boxes
ICE Anti Freeze
Twin Air Filters
Russian Doors!
SuperATV Bags on doors
Sedona Mud Rebel Tires
NMK's Famous Intake SYstem

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2016, 08:04:32 AM »
10 PSI? I think they (dealer) has mine set at 30 or 35 PSI, I'll have to check. What jack do you use (I figure you've already done the legwork to find the best/cheapest?)
Chris
35 is max for setting the bead on the tire but for operation 15 is max I think. I run mine at 9 but an going to 10. I keep this little scissor jack in my box.

http://www.amazon.com/ATD-Tools-7462-Scissor-Jack/dp/B00A7EOREO?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline Revolutionary

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2016, 08:06:12 PM »
10 now.... ;D
(2) 2016 CF Moto Zforce 800 EPS EX's
SuperATV:
Split Windshields
Big Rear View Mirrors
Big Side View Mirrors
Rear Cargo Boxes
ICE Anti Freeze
Twin Air Filters
Russian Doors!
SuperATV Bags on doors
Sedona Mud Rebel Tires
NMK's Famous Intake SYstem

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2016, 08:10:39 PM »
10 now.... ;D
A pound make a lot of difference. On these you want between 8 & 12 depending on what you ride on.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2016, 08:25:09 PM »
I think I ran between 7and 8 PSI with the stock tires. I ride pretty rough terrain and not very fast. I only run about 3 in my 30s. They are stiff.
2015 ZForce 800EX EPS
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2" lift
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Offline Revolutionary

Re: Flat Tire & Why CF Motos are so awesome.
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2016, 10:05:14 PM »
That's really surprising to me that such a small amount of air would make that much difference, I'm going to start at 10 & then maybe mess with it a little bit, go up & down & see what works best. Interesing....

(2) 2016 CF Moto Zforce 800 EPS EX's
SuperATV:
Split Windshields
Big Rear View Mirrors
Big Side View Mirrors
Rear Cargo Boxes
ICE Anti Freeze
Twin Air Filters
Russian Doors!
SuperATV Bags on doors
Sedona Mud Rebel Tires
NMK's Famous Intake SYstem