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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2017, 01:41:14 PM »
That's good. I was hoping not to see temps over about 170 or so. Thanks
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2017, 08:25:42 PM »
Ok, it's all installed and back together. Now to get out and run it a while & see. Some Pics.





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Offline chuddly

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2017, 09:47:32 AM »
I tried to watch the CVT temp during our race this last weekend but it was STUPID MUDDY.  Last time we could see the read out (LOL) it was staying at 160 and didnt seem to climb more than that.  I was doing the blower also.  I was absolutely running it about as hard as you possibly can also. 
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2017, 11:00:16 AM »
I tried to watch the CVT temp during our race this last weekend but it was STUPID MUDDY.  Last time we could see the read out (LOL) it was staying at 160 and didnt seem to climb more than that.  I was doing the blower also.  I was absolutely running it about as hard as you possibly can also. 
That's not bad. So...maybe running it pretty easy without a blower would be in the same range or even a little less.
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Offline chuddly

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2017, 11:01:23 AM »
That was my thought also.  I think the blower is a good thing. 
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2017, 11:14:03 AM »
That was my thought also.  I think the blower is a good thing. 
I'm sure it is. Not sure where I would adapt it in on my system though. Have to be on the intake tube as it crosses the CVT cover some how...I think.
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Offline WalkinTarget

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2017, 11:18:50 AM »
High RPM, high load is not accurate. Most of the stress the belt will endure is when its being lugged slowly, say at 12mph on a rocky trail in high gear. If you are riding under 20mph, do yourself a big favor and have your machine in low range.

An object in motion tends to stay in motion, so when you have it up to speed, it isn't working hard to maintain that speed. A guy in the Wildcatforums just bought a Wildcat X and blew out his belt in the first 50 miles. His belt temps were in excess of 210° for most of that ride, peaking at 250 !! Now that's how you kill a belt in a hurry ! Sounds like your belt temp are right where they need to be.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2017, 11:32:07 AM »
I guess if you want to know the exact temperature of the belt one of these Razerbacks  would be the ticket at a little over 200 bucks.


In the Flir video the belt and the inner clutch sheaves are the hottest.

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Offline chuddly

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2017, 12:38:05 PM »
I agree there is a lot of stress and strain on belts at take off and slow lugging.  But the heat kills them the fastest and the heat is generated at high RPM and high speeds.  This is shown in the above video.   This is because all these metal parts are connected right to the engine which is what is making the heat.  If left with no moving air the cvt's and belt would get to the operating temp of the engine in short order (normally around 220 even though your coolant temps are lower than that).   This is the reason for the forced air blower.  Im pulling fresh air in (we will say at 72*) and blowing it over the CVT's as fast as I can (same concept as me blowing my your hot food so you can shovel it in my face LOL).  Either way the point is keep the CVT as cool as you can because it works better then and it saves your belt.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2017, 10:51:09 PM »
Well, spent a few days on light to medium trails and some road time. The hottest it got was 172 and oddly it was during a road run at around a sustained 35mph. The rest of the time on the trails it never got over 160. So..I think I'm OK.
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Offline chuddly

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2017, 07:09:22 AM »
It does not surprise me that you saw higher temps on the road.  The road holds heat so your intake temps were higher.  The speed may or may not be a factor.
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Offline Jaxxus87

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2017, 07:26:50 AM »
I agree there is a lot of stress and strain on belts at take off and slow lugging.  But the heat kills them the fastest and the heat is generated at high RPM and high speeds.  This is shown in the above video.   This is because all these metal parts are connected right to the engine which is what is making the heat.  If left with no moving air the cvt's and belt would get to the operating temp of the engine in short order (normally around 220 even though your coolant temps are lower than that).   This is the reason for the forced air blower.  Im pulling fresh air in (we will say at 72*) and blowing it over the CVT's as fast as I can (same concept as me blowing my your hot food so you can shovel it in my face LOL).  Either way the point is keep the CVT as cool as you can because it works better then and it saves your belt.

Did you use an inline blower? if so, where at?

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2017, 08:01:00 AM »
It does not surprise me that you saw higher temps on the road.  The road holds heat so your intake temps were higher.  The speed may or may not be a factor.
Well by "road" I mean dirt forest roads and it never got above 50 degrees. I'm thinking maybe more along the lines of the clocking..that the A2 setting has more pressure or tension then say B1 at 35mph making it run hotter. Still..not over heating in any way I guess.
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Offline chuddly

Re: Decided to watch my CVT Temperature
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2017, 09:22:50 AM »
I agree there is a lot of stress and strain on belts at take off and slow lugging.  But the heat kills them the fastest and the heat is generated at high RPM and high speeds.  This is shown in the above video.   This is because all these metal parts are connected right to the engine which is what is making the heat.  If left with no moving air the cvt's and belt would get to the operating temp of the engine in short order (normally around 220 even though your coolant temps are lower than that).   This is the reason for the forced air blower.  Im pulling fresh air in (we will say at 72*) and blowing it over the CVT's as fast as I can (same concept as me blowing my your hot food so you can shovel it in my face LOL).  Either way the point is keep the CVT as cool as you can because it works better then and it saves your belt.

Did you use an inline blower? if so, where at?

Yes I am running a blower.  I mounted mine in the bed because i dont really use the bed much.  You could mount it under the wheel well if you wanted pretty easy also
I can imagine a world completely at peace.  A world where there are no weapons, no war, and no violence at all.  And I can imagine us taking over that world because they would never expect it.