[NMLeeS]

Ok, I’ve read the clocking threads and NMK has some amazing tutorials and videos out there.  My one simple question is does reclocking move the cvt lock up further up the RPM range?  Does it allow it to “downshift” better.  This thing was a dog in the sand washes this weekend.  A bit embarrassing with my razr friend.  It would lock up around 30mph and just bog after that. 

[NMKawierider]

Ok, I’ve read the clocking threads and NMK has some amazing tutorials and videos out there.  My one simple question is does reclocking move the cvt lock up further up the RPM range?  Does it allow it to “downshift” better.  This thing was a dog in the sand washes this weekend.  A bit embarrassing with my razr friend.  It would lock up around 30mph and just bog after that. 

The short answer is yes, clocking changes the amount of preload and spring resistance throughout the RPM range making the engine run at a higher or lower rate (depending on which way you go) for the flyweights of the primary to generate enough force to overcome that extra..(or less) resistance. The drawback is that if you go too far, backshifting/downshifting becomes a problem with these clutches as the helix's are friction- based in operation so between the extra resistance and the friction against the ramps and helix because of the load, and the engine's lack of torque, it won't back shift worth a shit. Sorry..but I found that out in the sand out here on the west mesa. Sand robs so much horse power and these are not only not geared for it, but don't develop enough power to compete with the other guys..especially the 1000s with turbos. But you can improve it enough to feel pretty good. Go to C1 or B2 and get yourself some 24 gram Dr Pulley sliders for the primary. Then at least you will feel...and look like something with some balls. This assumes you have the 800 of course. If it's the 500...well, it will help but..might be better to stick to trails. 

[NMLeeS]

Ok, I’ll order the sliders, they are lighter than the stock rollers?  How much top emd do you think I’ll lose?  I don’t need to go 70 mph but 6 is nice down south 14.  I’ll hit up Bobby J’s and see when they can do it. (Unless you feel like having a beer and showing me how to do it...)

[NMKawierider]

Ok, I’ll order the sliders, they are lighter than the stock rollers?  How much top emd do you think I’ll lose?  I don’t need to go 70 mph but 6 is nice down south 14.  I’ll hit up Bobby J’s and see when they can do it. (Unless you feel like having a beer and showing me how to do it...)

Heck man we have videos in the How To section on clocking. Even B2 no top end loss. And the 24 gram sliders are only one gram less each but makes a big difference staying the the power band.

[NMLeeS]

Ok, I’ll order the sliders, they are lighter than the stock rollers?  How much top emd do you think I’ll lose?  I don’t need to go 70 mph but 6 is nice down south 14.  I’ll hit up Bobby J’s and see when they can do it. (Unless you feel like having a beer and showing me how to do it...)

Heck man we have videos in the How To section on clocking. Even B2 no top end loss. And the 24 gram sliders are only one gram less each but makes a big difference staying the the power band.

Thanks NMK, maybe I’ll give it a shot this week.  Have a great night!

[NMKawierider]

Ok, I’ll order the sliders, they are lighter than the stock rollers?  How much top emd do you think I’ll lose?  I don’t need to go 70 mph but 6 is nice down south 14.  I’ll hit up Bobby J’s and see when they can do it. (Unless you feel like having a beer and showing me how to do it...)

Heck man we have videos in the How To section on clocking. Even B2 no top end loss. And the 24 gram sliders are only one gram less each but makes a big difference staying the the power band.

Thanks NMK, maybe I’ll give it a shot this week.  Have a great night!

Take a look at the videos and see if you have the tools needed..not much really. The other thing I wanted to add also is that sometimes people forget that we loose 3% of engine power for every 1000 feet in altitude we go. For us here...that's a big loss in power to start with. Here on the NE heights I'm at 5300 feet so that's over a 15% loss already. That takes a 60HP engine down to about 51..Just think what happens when we ride up to 11-12,000 feet! People at seal level or at least under 1000 feet don't have to deal with that loss.

[NMLeeS]

Ok, I’ll order the sliders, they are lighter than the stock rollers?  How much top emd do you think I’ll lose?  I don’t need to go 70 mph but 6 is nice down south 14.  I’ll hit up Bobby J’s and see when they can do it. (Unless you feel like having a beer and showing me how to do it...)

Heck man we have videos in the How To section on clocking. Even B2 no top end loss. And the 24 gram sliders are only one gram less each but makes a big difference staying the the power band.

Thanks NMK, maybe I’ll give it a shot this week.  Have a great night!

Take a look at the videos and see if you have the tools needed..not much really. The other thing I wanted to add also is that sometimes people forget that we loose 3% of engine power for every 1000 feet in altitude we go. For us here...that's a big loss in power to start with. Here on the NE heights I'm at 5300 feet so that's over a 15% loss already. That takes a 60HP engine down to about 51..Just think what happens when we ride up to 11-12,000 feet! People at seal level or at least under 1000 feet don't have to deal with that loss.

I understand loss to altitude very well.  It’s a killer in N/A cars, so I like to build boosted engines.  Of course I’m lacking the spanner for the clutch and the cool secondary clutch holder you made.  But I’ve got a shop at home with lots of tools and a lift to simplify things.  Your videos are great. Plus the distraction in the upper right during the mundane disassembly is handy.  
I’m pretty sure I have whatever I need to make the compressing tool as well.   It’s just nice to have an experienced eye on things for the first go round if possible.

Finding the Dr Pulley sliders has proven to be impossible.  I found one vendor on eBay who says they are out of stock.

[NMKawierider]

Ok, I’ll order the sliders, they are lighter than the stock rollers?  How much top emd do you think I’ll lose?  I don’t need to go 70 mph but 6 is nice down south 14.  I’ll hit up Bobby J’s and see when they can do it. (Unless you feel like having a beer and showing me how to do it...)

Heck man we have videos in the How To section on clocking. Even B2 no top end loss. And the 24 gram sliders are only one gram less each but makes a big difference staying the the power band.

Thanks NMK, maybe I’ll give it a shot this week.  Have a great night!

Take a look at the videos and see if you have the tools needed..not much really. The other thing I wanted to add also is that sometimes people forget that we loose 3% of engine power for every 1000 feet in altitude we go. For us here...that's a big loss in power to start with. Here on the NE heights I'm at 5300 feet so that's over a 15% loss already. That takes a 60HP engine down to about 51..Just think what happens when we ride up to 11-12,000 feet! People at seal level or at least under 1000 feet don't have to deal with that loss.

I understand loss to altitude very well.  It’s a killer in N/A cars, so I like to build boosted engines.  Of course I’m lacking the spanner for the clutch and the cool secondary clutch holder you made.  But I’ve got a shop at home with lots of tools and a lift to simplify things.  Your videos are great. Plus the distraction in the upper right during the mundane disassembly is handy.  
I’m pretty sure I have whatever I need to make the compressing tool as well.   It’s just nice to have an experienced eye on things for the first go round if possible.

Finding the Dr Pulley sliders has proven to be impossible.  I found one vendor on eBay who says they are out of stock.

Schooter Assassins, who I got mine from, says..or at least said a while back that although they don't put them on their ebay store, they do still have them. Send a message to Dragonparts0204, their US distributor, with your request. They may still have some in stock. BTW I'm running the 22 gram sliders because of the high country I ride sometimes. They do work OK down here...just a little overkill so..for us 22-24gram is OK. 

[glenlivet]

Odd, I ordered Dr Pulley 24's yesterday from an eBay vendor on the slow boat. Once they are in I'm going to C-1.

I have had my 800 Trail up to 11,460' at Paiute Trails, Utah and the poor thing absolutely fell on it's face, power wise. Idled perfectly but had hardly enough power to pull the meringue off a lemon pie, as an old buddy of mine would say.

[NMKawierider]

Odd, I ordered Dr Pulley 24's yesterday from an eBay vendor on the slow boat. Once they are in I'm going to C-1.

I have had my 800 Trail up to 11,460' at Paiute Trails, Utah and the poor thing absolutely fell on it's face, power wise. Idled perfectly but had hardly enough power to pull the meringue off a lemon pie, as an old buddy of mine would say.

Compared to the stock B1 and the 25 gram rollers, you will be very pleased with C1 and the 24 gram sliders. She'll still mellow-out up there but at least you will be able to pull a full slice of pie out of the tin...lol

[NMLeeS]

Odd, I ordered Dr Pulley 24's yesterday from an eBay vendor on the slow boat. Once they are in I'm going to C-1.

I have had my 800 Trail up to 11,460' at Paiute Trails, Utah and the poor thing absolutely fell on it's face, power wise. Idled perfectly but had hardly enough power to pull the meringue off a lemon pie, as an old buddy of mine would say.

Nice, I borrowed a friends razr and took it up to Liszt and Charlie’s RV park in Marysvale and spent a week on the Paiute trail, that’s what convinced me to buy my own sxs.  I’ve got a message to a vendor on eBay he says he has them, shipping on the slow boat,  and I also messaged NMKs guy to see it he already has them from the slow boat to save some time.

[glenlivet]

Here comes my sliders! I can't wait.

[Sockman]

Little info about Dr. Pulley.  I recently tried to get some clutch shoes for a 250 motor (CFmoto, actually) and the vendor gave me some bad news.  Dr. Pulley is now requiring a minimum order of 50 for any part.  So, basically, if a dealer wants to stock 24gram sliders for the Zforce they'd have to order 50 of them.  Who the hell is gonna order that much?  They'd never sell all that.

[NMLeeS]

I was able To put an order in with eBay vendor Androidextend.  Pretty sure he’s in Taiwan.  He claims to ship fedex as opposed to economy international shipping.  He says 5 to 30’days for delivery LOL.  We’ll see what happens.  He has 100% positive feedback though.  On a humorous note, I asked my local CF MOTO dealer the cost to Reclock the clutch, they said “what’s that?” .  So I told them and they said maybe $300 once they research it, maybe less.  I told them never mind, I’ll do it myself. 

[Sockman]

I was able To put an order in with eBay vendor Androidextend.  Pretty sure he’s in Taiwan.  He claims to ship fedex as opposed to economy international shipping.  He says 5 to 30’days for delivery LOL.  We’ll see what happens.  He has 100% positive feedback though.  On a humorous note, I asked my local CF MOTO dealer the cost to Reclock the clutch, they said “what’s that?” .  So I told them and they said maybe $300 once they research it, maybe less.  I told them never mind, I’ll do it myself.

Smart move.  I found I had to make a couple tools for the job.  One holds the primary and secondary still while I loosen the nuts.  The other is to compress the spring on the clutch for disassembly.  Couldn't find a pic of my spring compressor tool. 

Dr. Pulley is based out of Taiwan.  Wonder if you purchased directly from them?