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Offline Slazz127

Another clutch question!!
« on: June 21, 2017, 06:36:04 PM »
Ok I did my clutch clocking to b2 didn't notice a real difference maybe slightly off bottom but hills are pretty bad does not seem like it's back shifting posted a while back and and was told about the possibility of a spring issue I kno there not expensive but I remember seeing a pic of the 2 springs can't remember what one to look for  wondering if the 17  like mine has already been upgraded..another dumb question is I hear people talking about going to 24gr weights would it help me at all..(17 zforce 800ex all stock except a uni. stock tires) and also I hear about sliders and rollers..what do I have?? Sorry if I'm asking a stupid question..thanks guys in advance..
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Another clutch question!!
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2017, 07:49:59 PM »
One of the biggest mistakes that has been made is after setting the spring in the desired holes, not preloading it by twisting it up and setting the ramps on the slide pads during assembly. Doesn't matter where you set the spring if its not preloaded, it will feel like nothing. With that said and assuming you have instead one of those bad springs, yes just get one for the 16 or 17. On the rollers or sliders, the factory puts rollers in...they are round. The sliders work the same but not round, they slide in the tracks instead. The reality is the rollers don't always roll because well...they can't with both sides being stationary but the sliders doo let the cam plate cone out a bit more on the bottom giving you a hair lower starting ratio and move a bit farther up on the top end giving you a hair more speed. The weight..well that's a matter of need in fine-tuning. If you do a lot of low-end hill climbs maybe the 24s would help you..just know it raises engine RPM to get the same force out of it.
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Offline Slazz127

Re: Another clutch question!!
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2017, 08:20:09 PM »
Ok thank you I will pull back apart and check that..does the new spring have more coils or is it longer so I  kno if my 17 is the good or bad spring?.and so what I want to go with is sliders? What ones are best and where would I find them?  I think I may stick with 25gr Thanks nmk.
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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Another clutch question!!
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2017, 06:54:43 AM »
Ok thank you I will pull back apart and check that..does the new spring have more coils or is it longer so I  kno if my 17 is the good or bad spring?.and so what I want to go with is sliders? What ones are best and where would I find them?  I think I may stick with 25gr Thanks nmk.
Make sure when you pull it apart and you have it set on your B2 that when you reinstall the helix you twist the helix counter clockwise you will have to twist it about 30 something degrees, there is a sheet somewhere that shows the degrees for each setting, that number will correlate to how many degrees you have to twist the helix to get it past the ramp for reassembly. Another note, if you marked the ramp and Helix (hub) during removal. Just know that going to B2 the same helix end and ramp will not be touching each other. 

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Offline chuddly

Re: Another clutch question!!
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2017, 07:34:17 AM »
Sorry to hear about your troubles.  I am the guy who found the spring issue.  I cant say if yours has the problem or not but here is the link to my thread on it and hopefully that will help you decide if yours is a problem one or not??? http://cfmoto-forum.com/how-to's/clutch-spring-issues/

Also a good idea to check what the above guys are saying.

My machine is a 2014 so I had a much older spring.  I can verify that with doing NOTHING else but changing the spring I went from about 68mph to 71-72mph and gained some low end also.  I saw the same symptoms also of clutch changes had almost no effect.  Im not trying to tell you to buy a spring because I dont know how your bike feels.  But hopefully with the above thread link and that information you can make an informed decision.  If you have any questions feel free to ask.  I will do all I can to answer.
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Offline Slazz127

Re: Another clutch question!!
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2017, 11:07:27 AM »
Thanks chuddly I will hopefully get it pulled back apart this weekend.do know by chance the difference in length between your old one and the new one or were they the same size?
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Offline chuddly

Re: Another clutch question!!
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2017, 11:45:24 AM »
I dont know the length difference sorry.  Thinking back I should have measured it.  I will look tonight when i get home and see if i kept the old spring and measure it for you.
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Offline Slazz127

Re: Another clutch question!!
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2017, 11:56:47 AM »
Thank you I appreciate it..
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Offline Slazz127

Re: Another clutch question!!
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2017, 01:10:05 PM »
If I figure out if there is a spring issue and change it would running the dr pulley in 25g in b2 would that also help?
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Offline REDRIDER

Re: Another clutch question!!
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2017, 01:55:17 PM »
If I figure out if there is a spring issue and change it would running the dr pulley in 25g in b2 would that also help?
Dr pulley will help a little over stock gives you a little more bottom end while also giving a little more top end, not much. Staying the same weight will keep the engine rpm about the same as it is now, if you are running stock tires and at lower elevation 25g will probably work out just fine. If you go bigger on tires or ride in high elevation you would want to drop a little on the weight.