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I Was ridding then out of the sudden engine started to bog down. red light on dash came on and gave code p0005. Can anyone help me out with this and tell me how to fix. 2016 zforce 800

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Hi Reager,
Sorry to learn you getting some issues with your ride.
P-0005 code indicates a fuel system problem, which kind of like figures with your engine bogging down. Or more importantly fuel starvation.
P-0005 OBDII or DTC codes are related to fuel system issues, in particular the fuel shut off valve. P0005 – Fuel Shutoff Valve "A" Control Circuit/Open.
However, be cautious as one can be sent on a wild goose chase searching for specific components listed under P codes that may or may not exist on your ride.
It's a generic code DTC code which indicates a fuel system issue and therefore is informing you that there is a fuel control/flow/cut-off issue. It may be controlled by specific components or be a piece of software inside your fuel injection ECU.
What next:- Determine the fuel injection system fitted to your ride, i.e. Bosch, Delphi, Siemens etc. Go to their website, do not go to one of those manual website download sites! ( you will get outdate nonspecific crap)
Ensure you get the exact injection system type, version, year of production etc and download "ONLY" from the injection system manufacturers website. Their manual will inform you of what exactly is in your systems and what if any components are controlling fuel flow/cut off. But more importantly inform you how to test/check/diagnose each fuel injection system component.

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Below is the fault table for the 2015-2017 ZFs. P0005 isn't on it as you see. I assume you did the jumper-trick to get it to flash the code...or did you use something other hen the CFM reader. GMSAHFR is right in that the p0005 is a general fuel system code for many. For the CFM ZFs one common problem is fuel pressure and that can be because of a bad pump, stuck tank check valve, water in the fuen and /or in the fuel filter or trash build-up on the intake sock. The are the most common however they are others like low system voltage, failing chassis ground...relay or fuse box issues...ect.


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Hi Reager,

Attached is the Delphi MT05-2 system fitted to my CFMOTO X8 Euro4, as you can see there is no specific "Shut-off" valve (P 0005) relates specifically to a fuel shut off valve.

Ok, where does this leave us..................your fuel is being cut off the, the injection ECU is diagnosing this and displaying the relevant DTC P code for this.
Consider things like:-

•   Fuel pump and its feed/power circuit, relays, fuses and loom connections.
•   Fuel filter, pickup inside tank and external filter. Blockages in the fuel system pipe work.
•   Condition of your fuel, source of your fuel, your fuel type i.e ethanol free or ethanol additive.
•   Injectors are they both functioning, providing the exact spray pattern from both and both delivering the exact same amount of fuel. Is one stuck or sticking.
P.S. do not under any circumstances utilise any fuel additives or any form of additive that allegedly cleans or improves your injection system!

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I greatly appreciate all your advise.
I have another question... can somebody tell me what the fuel pump pressure should be? I just want to make sure my pump is running good.

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Fuel pressure at the injector or rail should be 330kPa which is 47.8625psi. I didn't find the flow rate but that is also important.
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Hi Reager,

Pleased to be of assistance hope the advice is helpful to you in solving your challenge.

Fuel pressure can vary vastly, all dependant on which manufacturer injection system you have can range between 2.2 bar up to 3.5 bar. Beyond 3.5 and up to 5.5 and you are into race fuel systems with steel pipes and steel connectors.

The Delphi MTO5-2 version injection system fitted to my X8 is regulated to run at 2.2bar at all engine speeds.

You do need to determine who's injection system is fitted to your ride and get the exact specifics and specifications for that system on your ride. Utilising generic settings or a generic pressure will send you down the garden path to no where.

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The service manual for the 2014-2017 Z Force 800 does specifically state 330kPa which converts to 47.8625 psi.
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 Tested fuel pump which is at 56psi constant. Both injectors were bench tested and have good streams not clogged. What else would you guys recommend?

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Quote from: REAGER on March 29, 2025, 12:52:18 PM
Tested fuel pump which is at 56psi constant. Both injectors were bench tested and have good streams not clogged. What else would you guys recommend?
At 56psi its way over pressured and is dumping far too much fuel in per pulse. It would be like a carbed machine with the choke on. That 47psi can only be +/- a pound or so. I think there is something wrong with the pressure regulator. What do the plugs look like?
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Hi Reager,

Pleased to learn you are making progress...............

Pleased to learn the injectors are OK

The system pressure.............. difficult for me to comment here as, A) I do not know what manufacturer injection system is fitted B) I do not know what is the correct system pressure should be for your bespoke injection system.

Although the pressure appears to be a tad on the high side for all I know it may be correct?

If the pressure is too high then there is the potential of a pressure regulation issue.

If the pressure is correct, one must go back to the P coded and the symptom i.e. bogging down, which deduces to "Fuel Starvation"  so you are back to basics i.e. blockages in pump pick-up or external filter, blockages or kinks in fuel feed pipe. Contaminated fuel, something floating about in the tank and blocking the pump pick-up...........or a pump pick-up that is not fitted correctly and or moving.

Best of Luck GMSAHFR 
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