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Offline Cosmosdan

Z6 shock length
« on: July 21, 2017, 12:38:33 PM »
Eyelet to eyelet free length
Z6 53"
Rear 17 3/8"
Front 15 3/8"

Z6EX
Rear 21"
Front 19 1/2"
*Polaris xp900 should be the same but check to confirm

Standard rzr570/800 50"
Rear 18 1/2"
Front 16 1/4"
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline vman

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2017, 12:00:01 AM »
I am not sure if you posted this in regards to my post about ground clearance, regardless I needed this information so thank you.

I am changing my tires in a few weeks from the Abuzz to a 27X8.50X14LT radial that weighs about the same as the  Abuzz, I will also be changing the CVT belt in the near future and I am planning to go to the A1 setting when I do and possibly adding a set of 25g Doctor Pully sliders as well, I do not relish pulling the clutch apart multiple times and would like to get this right the first time if that is possible, I don't know what tires you are running but I see that you have done basically the same thing but stayed with the rollers, can you tell me what your experience has been with this setting and why you stayed with the rollers...thanks.
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2017, 12:31:08 AM »
I still have stock tires. I tried lighter weight sliders, but top end was gone. I didn't want to buy a set at 25g so I just put the rollers back in. A1 should be ok if you don't ride hilly areas. If you do, I might go C1. If the tires are heavier than stock C1 might be better also. Yes the post was for you. I didn't want the info burried in another tread.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline vman

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2017, 07:16:46 PM »
I thought that you might have wanted to keep it in the Z6 section. The tires that I am putting on are the same weight as the originals and 2" less in the rear tire width and while they are listed as 27 the true height if I remember correctly is 26.7 so they should be a little better for acceleration, like you I don't want to give up top end that is why I am considering the 25g sliders hoping to get better low end and top end performance, I do get some long uphill runs through the mountains and would like to get more power in the midrange area which is why I was considering the A1 setting, my main objective is to have more power mid and top end, if somehow I ended up with better acceleration and a higher top speed that would be a nice plus.  What has the A1 setting done for your performance?
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2017, 07:35:54 PM »
A1 helped with backshift but I'm going to C1 if I open the cover again. Still lags when starting up a hill.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline vman

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2017, 10:09:11 AM »
My wife and I run around the countryside with our machine and she uses it to take our daughter to school and to shop in the small town where we live, we run on hard pack 80% f the time and asphalt the other 20%, we cross a lot of rivers here but they are all pretty much rocky bottoms as evidenced in my avatar, my biggest frustration is with long steep uphill runs, it seems that it is not backshifting and the machine just bogs down loosing rpms and crawls up the hills. I am sure that my belt is original and I just had a family member bring a replacement to me this week and while I am anxious to get the clutches cleaned out and the new belt on I am wondering if 25g sliders will make that much of a difference and if  I should wait until I order the sliders and do it all at one time, I think I will take your advice and use the C1 setting.
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2017, 10:47:51 AM »
My wife and I run around the countryside with our machine and she uses it to take our daughter to school and to shop in the small town where we live, we run on hard pack 80% f the time and asphalt the other 20%, we cross a lot of rivers here but they are all pretty much rocky bottoms as evidenced in my avatar, my biggest frustration is with long steep uphill runs, it seems that it is not backshifting and the machine just bogs down loosing rpms and crawls up the hills. I am sure that my belt is original and I just had a family member bring a replacement to me this week and while I am anxious to get the clutches cleaned out and the new belt on I am wondering if 25g sliders will make that much of a difference and if  I should wait until I order the sliders and do it all at one time, I think I will take your advice and use the C1 setting.
For the usage you described C1 is probably the best choice..(IMO). I think I would do it all at the same time and either the 25 or the 24 gram sliders will be a noticeable improvement. For the hill climbs I might have leaned toward the 24s but overall you should be happy with the change.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline vman

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2017, 01:03:22 PM »

[/quote]For the usage you described C1 is probably the best choice..(IMO). I think I would do it all at the same time and either the 25 or the 24 gram sliders will be a noticeable improvement. For the hill climbs I might have leaned toward the 24s but overall you should be happy with the change.
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With the limited top speed I have, I was hoping to gain a small bit more and from what I've read on this forum if I understand correctly the 24g sliders might help more on the hills but would keep my top end the same or possibly reduce it a small amount, and I believe you are right that with the C1 setting and the 25g sliders I will be happy with the change. I will definitely report back when I get it all completed. Thanks for the advice guys.

2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2017, 01:58:10 PM »
Well, if the clutches are at full shift-out and the engine is against the RPM limiter, there is nothing you can do to increase the speed unless one of those two changes. The sliders over the rollers will go a hair farther both ways so that's a little increase and with either slider you will still get full shiftout from C1 and below with the 600. Power to weight ration will also have a say-so in this game too.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline vman

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2017, 02:34:58 PM »
50mph is fine for top speed I don't have much use for it but when I do I hate to run it at max rpm, it's those damn long hills where I almost feel I should get out and push that get to me, hopefully with the clutches cleaned out, new belt, sliders and settings we get better performance up the hills and up to 55 top speed which some of the fellows say they get with a stock machine. I know this cow can only give so much milk, just trying to do the best with what I got ;D
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2017, 03:13:08 PM »
Getting the clutch cover off is a bit of work so if you want sliders wait unroll you have them and do it all at once. Also check the ducts to see if they are deformed and not sealing good with the boots. Mine were and let water and extra dust in there. Just used a heat gun and reshaped them.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline vman

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2017, 03:39:15 PM »
LOL, knowing what NMK and a few others have run into on newer machines I am expecting the worse on mine...maybe I'll get lucky. I have checked the ducts and corrected one with the heat gun, my family that brought the new belt down also brought a suitcase full of things to me, oil filters, backlit rocker switches, mirrors, air filters, pre filters, seat sliders, silicone elbows and everything I need to get the engine and CVT breathing clean fresh air from the bed...while not perfect a whole lot better than where the factory had them, my front and back windshields are on a ship and should be here within the next 2 weeks and Rodin just shipped my doors and a full set of body graphics today.....I love Christmas in July, unfortunately, I missed out on having them bring the sliders as well so the clutch will need to wait a few more weeks.
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2017, 03:57:51 PM »
At least you could put the sliders in later. Don't have to take the clutches off...just the cover and the primary retainer nut.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline vman

Re: Z6 shock length
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2017, 04:41:27 PM »
 I am a bit lazy...all at once.
2012 Z6 625

Rodin doors and liners, SATV flip up windshield and Pacific Eagle soft rear, Dr. Pulley Sliders, C1 clutch, 1" wheel spacers, 2" lift, Kolpin Mirrors, custom muffler, front light bar, custom mudguards, modified rear cage, 27" Maxxis Mudder LT tires, custom seat covers, custom air intakes.