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Offline vbprogramma

Starter clicking - 600 Snyper
« on: November 22, 2021, 02:16:31 PM »
I am looking for a little help.  My 2014 Snyper 600 died on me in the woods the other day.  It was working fine, but after turning it off, I tried to start it again and all I get is a click. All the board, lights winch all work.  I tried the battery just in case and fully charged, then I looked at the 5 fuses under the dash and they all appears to be fine. I noticed the fuel pump no longer engages when I turn the key now.... the fuel pump was engaging the first few times I tried, but now it is not.  Any help would be greatly appreciated as to where/what to try next.

Thanks all

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Starter clicking - 600 Snyper
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2021, 02:23:30 PM »
Check all the cable and battery connections..including the ground. If all is good try to send power directly to the starter using a jumper cable. If it turns, it may be the starter solenoid. If it doesn't, the starter motor may have a problem. DO try to rotate the engine by hand to ensure it's not seized or jumped time first though.
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Offline vbprogramma

Re: Starter clicking - 600 Snyper
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2021, 02:33:10 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  I will give that a shot and report back.  Do you know if there is a relay under the driver seat or something to check as well?  I don't have the English manual.  Since I can't read chinese, I am left with a book of pictures :)  I assume I need to remove the front driver side wheel to get at the starter? 

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Starter clicking - 600 Snyper
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2021, 03:07:02 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  I will give that a shot and report back.  Do you know if there is a relay under the driver seat or something to check as well?  I don't have the English manual.  Since I can't read chinese, I am left with a book of pictures :)  I assume I need to remove the front driver side wheel to get at the starter? 
Most of the Snypers/ZForces have the starter relays mounted driver's side rear frame behind the tire. I just happen to have a service manual...in english..for your machine and will PM you a link to down-load it.
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
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Offline vbprogramma

Re: Starter clicking - 600 Snyper
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2021, 03:42:06 PM »
Got the manual thanks... at least I am not blind anymore :)

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Offline vbprogramma

Re: Starter clicking - 600 Snyper
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2021, 08:29:02 PM »
UPDATE:  Well checked the solenoid- good, check the current getting to the starter - good.  Ran a direct wire to the starter to make sure, and no good.  At this point, I am thinking it is a bad starter since I have current. 

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Offline vbprogramma

Re: Starter clicking - 600 Snyper
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2021, 06:56:49 AM »
Anyone know if there is an easier way to get to the starter on these darn things.  I have the plastic off behind the seats, the rear windshield off, I can now see the starter and reach it (barely).  I am now taking off the air intake hoses, hoping to be able to get my hand in there to get to the bolts.  Is there how you guys would go about it, or is there some magical trick to getting in there?

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Starter clicking - 600 Snyper
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2021, 08:53:28 AM »
Sorry, I don't. The 800s are very different in that aspect. The starter motors are easier to get to. Have you ensured the engine will rotate? Got to turn the crankshaft somehow. Probably from the fan because from the Primary clutch the one-way sprag will only lock..or provide some resistance.. in one direction. The fan will be direct access. If it does turn then yeah I would say it's the starter motor. If not...well..sorry.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2021, 08:55:05 AM by NMKawierider »
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
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Offline vbprogramma

Re: Starter clicking - 600 Snyper
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2021, 12:27:58 PM »
Happy to report I replaced the starter last week and I am back on the trails.  Just for information purposes..  I had to remove the 3 plastics behind the seats and the cover on the emergency break oh and the rear window since it was held by the same bolts  Glad I bought a bag full of those pesky plastic clips as I think there was more of those clips than there were of bolts holding those plastics.  The starter was pretty easy to remove, just needed to unhook the two safety break cable lines and then just the 2 bolts holding the starter in place.  I did end up taking the starter apart and after a bit of frigging around got it to turn over again.  I threw it in my spare parts box and bought a new one since there was a bit of wear on the brushes so better safe than sorry.

Thanks to the forum helpers on here for the suggestions and pointers.   

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Starter clicking - 600 Snyper
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2021, 12:29:02 PM »
Cool...glad you got it.
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage |7- 9.7" GPS Systems | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front | Cage Chop Mod

My Videos On YouTube