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Offline Cosmosdan

Rear shocks toast.
« on: June 12, 2016, 01:40:21 PM »
I killed the rear shocks this weekend. I'm now on the hunt to find some gas shocks that fit the z6 trail.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline WalkinTarget

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 04:13:39 PM »
So do you bury them or cremate them now that thy are dead ? Be interesting to find what fits your ride. Hope it's something relatively cheap, and easy to find to boot.
2014 Arctic Cat Wildcat Trail - 27" GBC Dirt Commanders, soft top, quarter windshield, AC front and rear steel bumpers, Bandit springs, EZ Ryde Midnight Edition exhaust, Plano 1719 storage box, Speedwerx throttle and secondary clutch spring, heated seats, Polaris seat slider.

Sold: 2006 King Quad 700 - 27" ITP 589 M/S tires, ITP rims

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2016, 05:52:16 PM »
I would get a measurement from I to I and talk with some makers like Fox, Walker, Elka, Works, Rancho...ect. I'm sure a set can be found that is reasonably close.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2016, 12:45:56 AM »
I found some elka shocks. They are pricey. I will pull one out and mesure it. Maybe I can find something to fit.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline bezerk1

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2016, 06:17:03 AM »
Check out Afco Shocks.  I have been on the phone with them several times.  They do make a model that will work.

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2016, 06:31:07 PM »
Can you post a link model number.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline bezerk1

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2016, 08:03:17 PM »
I did my research on fronts only. The numbers were 1375T 16 series. The afco website is hard to navigate. The cfmoto springs may fit on the afco shocks. It would be best to just give them a call.

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2016, 08:21:13 PM »
OK thanks. I will check it out. It would be nice to find some gas ones too.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2016, 07:01:28 PM »
I looked at my buddies rzr 800 and the shocks are a tad longer but should work good with very little mods. I found a full set on ebay cheap so I will keep you posted on how they work out. I can get different Springs for these so that's an upside to using them.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2016, 04:33:53 PM »
OK, I fitted a rear rzr shock. The rear a arms stop downward movement due to the cv shaft/ diff. placement. I suspect that with a lift, the play, in and out, is also taken away. Just wondering if the inward pressure put on the diff. Every time the wheels leave the ground will damage it.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2016, 05:42:57 PM »
I'm sure the thrust or impact on the carrier & bearings would have some effect over time.  I would also think having a CV joint go past it's operational limit while rotating the mass of a tire and wheel would be a large concern as well. I know on my Z8 the shock stops the downward travel several inches before the CV joints do so...I would.. "wonder".. about that. If they are not actually in a binding position that far down it shouldn't be an issue. I guess..you will let us know how it works out.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2016, 05:45:22 PM by NMKawierider »
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2016, 06:03:42 PM »
I am going to check this with the factory shock in. The Diff and axle sit below the lower arm so it has no chance to povit once it gets past horz. It starts to push the shaft in once you start to angle down. If the axle sat between the arms, this would be a non issue. Fustrating....
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2016, 06:32:27 PM »
I guess if the joints are not over-flexed then like you say, its the length the stops them on the down-swing.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | 9.7" GPS | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2016, 08:59:13 PM »
When the pivot point of the cv joint is that low in relation to the swing point of the arms, the distance shortens quickly. I would have to raise the Diff up a bit to make it work right or see if I can shorten the axle and hope it is still long enough not to pop out. I'm thinking that the amount of force is from the shock springs as extends as far as it can and the shaft is pushed back until it bottoms out. I guess i might be OK as long as I don't hit something, forcing the arms down more. It may have been this way with the stock shocks, I still have to check that tomorrow.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: Rear shocks toast.
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2016, 06:55:29 AM »
I checked the axle play in and out with a stock shock. No play once I get the tire off the ground. Run it till the diff. Goes I guess.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet