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Offline JJIGLESIAS

CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« on: April 23, 2017, 08:20:33 AM »
I usually ride my 625-3/Z-6 in the highlands of Bolivia, and however I snorkeled the Engine intake and the CVT intake and exhaust also; I keep feeling that the CVT cover runs very hot; so I have been guessing how to force fresh air into the CVT, not just the natural "aspirated" from the Snorkel system.

So I have been wondering if the air flow from the Engine RH side Fan could be deviated instead of flowing freely over the engine muffler, but into the CVT, it seems to be enough space to pass a pipe from RH to LH of the body; below the engine exhaust pipe and to the CVT intake (rear).

I guess that the admission to the Fan should be snorkeled as well with a filter and to preclude overheat in the muffler: wrap it with exhaust pipe heat wrap tape.

How this is just an idea, I ask for your thoughts about.

Thanks

JJ
« Last Edit: April 23, 2017, 08:23:37 AM by JJIGLESIAS »
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 08:37:03 AM »
I was thinking that if my temp gauge indicated it was necessary, I would try a CVT in-line blower to either posh or pull air through it when needed. Even something like one of these either this 3" or a 2" version would be easy and cheap enough to consider.

https://www.amazon.com/Attwood-Blower-Resist-White-3-Inch/dp/B001O0DE9E/ref=pd_sim_200_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001O0DE9E&pd_rd_r=B2B9QYZ06WFPM7HN23C9&pd_rd_w=0j3Q9&pd_rd_wg=3etzS&psc=1&refRID=B2B9QYZ06WFPM7HN23C9
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Offline JJIGLESIAS

Re: CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2017, 08:48:21 AM »
Where do you get the indication of CVT temp? The 625-3/Z-6 do not have any sensor. Does the 800/Z-8 have indication?
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Offline JJIGLESIAS

Re: CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2017, 08:53:02 AM »
Aside, I do not want to be adding more weight to the 625-3 but to use all the resources that the same machine have. I ever believed that this fan blower is totally useless.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2017, 09:00:53 AM by JJIGLESIAS »
CFMoto 625-3 Terracross (2012)
Kawasaki KV750D Brute Force (2010)

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2017, 08:53:17 AM »
Where do you get the indication of CVT temp? The 625-3/Z-6 do not have any sensor. Does the 800/Z-8 have indication?

I installed a Trail Tech CVT temp gauge. There is a write-up in the How To section. I have not had a chance to test it out yet except around the yard.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2017, 08:58:47 AM »
Aside, I do not want to be adding more weight to the 625-3 but to use all the resources that the same maquine have. I ever believed that this fan blower is totally useless.
As I understand it, CFM had some problems with fires a while back from heat buildup and added these blowers to move air around the engines. Not sure about using it for something else. Think I'll leave mine alone :)

 
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Offline murdo

Re: CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2017, 02:51:20 AM »
One of those Attwood blowers on the outlet should make a difference to the amount of air moving through the housing.

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Offline gfmoto

Re: CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2017, 11:03:49 AM »
NMK, what about adding something like this? Think it would create better air flow? Even for the Engine intake.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Air-Intake-Fan-Supercharger-Engine-Enhancer-Turbo-Gas-Fuel-Vortex-Kit-Saver-/201622911568?hash=item2ef1a97a50:g:lEMAAOSwRJ9XhvMr&vxp=mtr
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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2017, 08:12:59 PM »
I looked at them. I decided that it would restrict and not help. Some fellows did test them and found they did little to help MPG also.
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Offline gfmoto

Re: CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2017, 10:37:37 PM »
Yeah I bought one years ago, never installed. Was afraid of a fin breaking off and sucked into the engine of my Nissan. But just to make air move for cooling I'm wondering if it would benefit.
2015 ZForce 800EX
32" light bar
2-4" spots
Custom Cv guards
DIY 1/2 windshield
UNI air filter
DIY rear window
BOSS ATV 28. 450W speakers
Alpena Rock Lights (tough pods)
2" RZR Bracket lift
Roof extensions
27" Maxxis Corranado Tires
Alpena RGB rock lights
SuperATV Rocksliders
1/2 Doors w/custom paint and graphics

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: CVT Snorkeling and alternatives
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2017, 03:37:45 PM »
NMK, what about adding something like this? Think it would create better air flow? Even for the Engine intake.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Air-Intake-Fan-Supercharger-Engine-Enhancer-Turbo-Gas-Fuel-Vortex-Kit-Saver-/201622911568?hash=item2ef1a97a50:g:lEMAAOSwRJ9XhvMr&vxp=mtr
They have little or nor restriction as is...and they can only use so much air so..I wouldn't think it would make much difference. After I changed the intake tube I never got any hind of restriction again on the box so..I think it's good.
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