0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

*

Offline Ukhozi

Seat mounts.
« on: April 01, 2018, 06:30:31 am »
I hope this category covers the Fforce Z550 EX efi as well.

Having had one seat pull out the brass M6 threaded inserts from the spacer bar I was wondering if it's just a European problem or if the US models have the same set up of a wedge shaped plastic spacer between the seat base and the mounting frame, the one that fits into two loops at the front and a clip at the back?

I was thinking of swapping that spacer out for a slider/runner and spacer (for the tilt angle).

Any thoughts anyone?

*

Offline NMKawierider

Re: Seat mounts.
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2018, 09:00:50 am »
Have not had that happen..yet on my Z8 but have had the screws out a few times playing with riser bars and such. Others have adapted the Polaris 800 seat bases with adjusters to theirs.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

My Videos On YouTube

*

Offline Ukhozi

Re: Seat mounts.
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2018, 06:47:29 am »
Fixed the seat bolt problem.

On the narrow part of the 'wedge' I ground away a little so a pan head screw would clear and then fitted a M6 Pan head screw and large diameter washer from the top side through the insert with about 1/2" of thread showing. The wider part of the 'wedge? is fine, lots of room. then after fitting the 'wedges' to the seat in the normal way, (recommend using normal M6x20mm allen bolts as the original ones are crap) and then bolted the base to the wedges with the original washers and M6 nylok nuts, SOLID!

*

Offline Ukhozi

Re: Seat mounts.
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2018, 06:58:55 am »
Just a crude drawing to show what I did, (you WILL get used to these)



I will also put on the 'how to' board
« Last Edit: April 14, 2018, 07:35:15 am by Ukhozi »

*

Offline Ukhozi

Re: Seat mounts.
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2018, 08:55:44 am »
Yet more loose seat bolts, will have to replace all crap OEM screws with decent allen bolts and spring washers. so 88 M6 x 30 allen bolts please.  :-\

Also just had out FOURTH rear caliper burn out, this time a new seal would not cure it as the cylinder is warped and still pissed out fluid so all new at over $300 a go.ouch!

Seat belt buckels jamming a lot too, I have now fitted a belt extension which is just a buckle and a tang, so after getting the jammed one out I pop in a extension and that cures that, the original buckles are too low and collect all the crap from the side of the seat goes straight down the slot. the extensions put the slot above the seat edge as well as being strip-able to clean.

Sasumi sprimgs (70mm) on the exhaust have solved that problem and just in case I will be fitting a 'loose' wire retainer on one position so if all three springs do go it will not mean the joint parting and a $20 cone gasket getting lost, again.

*

Offline Ukhozi

Re: Seat mounts.
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2018, 01:33:18 pm »
All 22 seats have had the screws changed for M6 x 25 mm stainless steel bolts and spring washers, problem is you cannot tighten the screws with a 3mm Allen key. The spring washers on ALL bolts had opened out to a C shape and useless.

*

Offline Moto_Man63

Re: Seat mounts.
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2018, 09:08:38 am »
Sasumi sprimgs (70mm) on the exhaust have solved that problem and just in case I will be fitting a 'loose' wire retainer on one position so if all three springs do go it will not mean the joint parting and a $20 cone gasket getting lost, again.

Do you have part numbers and a link or website you used to purchase the springs and gasket?   Lost my springs this weekend. 
2017 Z500, Twin Air Pre-Filter and Filter, Super ATV Flip Up Windshield and Rear Window

*

Offline Ukhozi

Re: Seat mounts.
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2018, 12:56:20 pm »
I'll look when in workshop in next couple of days and let you know. I do know they are 7cm long Japanese ones but name eludes me at the moment.


Regarding seat mounts; one came back off tour today with the seat loose, it had not been unrated, the rest are still tight, proves the point.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2018, 01:01:36 pm by Ukhozi »

*

Offline Moto_Man63

Re: Seat mounts.
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2018, 10:56:25 am »
No worries I purchased some Helix 70mm Stainless Steel springs from my dealer.   Hope they fit  ;D
2017 Z500, Twin Air Pre-Filter and Filter, Super ATV Flip Up Windshield and Rear Window

*

Offline NMKawierider

Re: Seat mounts.
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2018, 11:00:36 am »
I bought Moose 70mm springs but they were not cheap. I found after that the OEs were soft enough I could cut some off and re-loop the ends. So far those that I did that too are holding. Of course the Moose springs are as well...lol
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

My Videos On YouTube

*

Offline Moto_Man63

Re: Seat mounts.
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2018, 10:41:11 am »
70 mm fit perfectly.   The Moose 70mm springs are very expensive.  Hopefully the ones I purchased will last and not fall off.  Time will tell.
2017 Z500, Twin Air Pre-Filter and Filter, Super ATV Flip Up Windshield and Rear Window