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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #90 on: August 14, 2018, 08:31:47 AM »
I finally decided to take them down as short as Coloradocrawler's and see how that works-out. Here's some pics...as well as some pics I did for another member that wanted a parts list for this install.







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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #91 on: August 23, 2018, 07:58:16 AM »
Here's some pics...as well as some pics I did for another member that wanted a parts list for this install.

Getting ready for a three day camping driving trip, I checked my air filter.  I had just cleaned it before a one day drive (60 miles) and thought it would be okay for the three day adventure.  Nope.  It was filthy.  It is a Uni filter, but some fine dust still made it through to the intake housing.  I have been swamped with work and family obligations but after this trip I will be doing the above mod.  Two reasons:  Way easier to change out a filter mid trip and help eliminate the fine dust particles in the intake, thereby adding years to the life of the top end.  I hate the stock air box.  It's placed in the worst place for it and it's hard to get into.

I appreciate all the work you have done, NMK, to make the CF a better machine and your willingness to help others.  If I deviate from your design I will post up some pics for others to consider.

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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #92 on: August 23, 2018, 11:55:34 AM »
Here's some pics...as well as some pics I did for another member that wanted a parts list for this install.

Getting ready for a three day camping driving trip, I checked my air filter.  I had just cleaned it before a one day drive (60 miles) and thought it would be okay for the three day adventure.  Nope.  It was filthy.  It is a Uni filter, but some fine dust still made it through to the intake housing.  I have been swamped with work and family obligations but after this trip I will be doing the above mod.  Two reasons:  Way easier to change out a filter mid trip and help eliminate the fine dust particles in the intake, thereby adding years to the life of the top end.  I hate the stock air box.  It's placed in the worst place for it and it's hard to get into.

I appreciate all the work you have done, NMK, to make the CF a better machine and your willingness to help others.  If I deviate from your design I will post up some pics for others to consider.
I appreciate your kind words. This whole thing was an act of trial and error and evolution. Even now where it is I still get a lot of dust in both the first filters and am wondering if it wouldn't be wiser to pull the fresh air from either the front or from inside the cab area. When I had the stacks near the top of the roof, it was minimal but after the first lowering it was noticeably worse...and now with then even lower...well, we'll see. I'm also headed out for a 5-day camping trip which will give me a change to see how that...and the new Bandit rear spring work out. We leave today in about two hours. Just the final hook-up left and we be gone!  :)


   


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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #93 on: November 01, 2018, 01:06:27 PM »
Well..ever sense a friend installed a particle separator on his Ranger and reduced his air filter changes from twice a month to less then once a year I have been thinking hard about that. Then S&B came out with one with a 3.5" center discharge for the YXZ and it came to me that I could mount that thing in the middle, throw on a 3.5" to 3" turbo "Y" and take them to each stack...and that the one would probably be enough for both the engine and CVT. That would end my clearing the CVT filter every 30-50 miles and all but stop the cleaning of the engine air but once or twice a year like my friends. Talking with S&B they think it should be fine.

Thoughts?  Here's a link:

https://www.sbfilters.com/particle-separator/yamaha-yxz-1000r-76-2004
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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #94 on: November 02, 2018, 08:38:09 AM »
nmk where did you get your filter cans from, thanks
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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #95 on: November 02, 2018, 08:42:24 AM »
nmk where did you get your filter cans from, thanks
Those are from ebay. The filters they come with are junk though. I kept the one in the CVT cause it was easy to clean but I gutted the engine air side and adapted a unifilter in it.
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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #96 on: November 02, 2018, 08:58:37 AM »
any name or site i have not been able to find any thing like that, thanks
2015 Z800 EX
IRON BALISTIC SKID PLATES
4600 LB WINCH  HOMEMADE BACKBONES
SUPER ATV FULL TILT WINDSHIELD
DUAL BATTERYS   CUSTOM AIR FILTER RELOCATION
42 IN LIGHT BAR, PLUS 4IN SPOTS
TWO BROTHERS EXHAUST
TWIN AIR FILTER
HOME MADE DOORS
TUSK INSIDE ROOF PACK
DOUGLAS MOAPA RUN FLAT TIRES 28  10 FT 12 REAR DOUGLAS STEALTH 8 IN WHEELS FRT, 10 IN WHEELS REAR
QUICK DISCONNECT FIRE EXT
RACKBOSS RACK AND PINION WITH UPGRADED TIRE RODS AND ENDS
EJK TUNER
PRO ARMOR 5 POINT BELTS
23 GRAM DR. PULLEY SLIDERS
SECONDARY CLOCKED TO C2
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MR RPM OIL FILTER ADAPTER

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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #97 on: November 02, 2018, 09:18:47 AM »
Well..ever sense a friend installed a particle separator on his Ranger and reduced his air filter changes from twice a month to less then once a year I have been thinking hard about that. Then S&B came out with one with a 3.5" center discharge for the YXZ and it came to me that I could mount that thing in the middle, throw on a 3.5" to 3" turbo "Y" and take them to each stack...and that the one would probably be enough for both the engine and CVT. That would end my clearing the CVT filter every 30-50 miles and all but stop the cleaning of the engine air but once or twice a year like my friends. Talking with S&B they think it should be fine.

Thoughts?  Here's a link:

https://www.sbfilters.com/particle-separator/yamaha-yxz-1000r-76-2004
Good idea, but quite pricey. I don't get so much of a dust problem as some of you do it seems. I would be more apt to stick the snorkel higher again to just grab cleaner air if it were me. I also don't like the amperage draw. I find my battery slowly depletes as is just running the stock lights and my 13" light bar since most of my riding is at night. I wouldn't want to add another constant draw.

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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #99 on: November 02, 2018, 09:30:02 AM »
Well..ever sense a friend installed a particle separator on his Ranger and reduced his air filter changes from twice a month to less then once a year I have been thinking hard about that. Then S&B came out with one with a 3.5" center discharge for the YXZ and it came to me that I could mount that thing in the middle, throw on a 3.5" to 3" turbo "Y" and take them to each stack...and that the one would probably be enough for both the engine and CVT. That would end my clearing the CVT filter every 30-50 miles and all but stop the cleaning of the engine air but once or twice a year like my friends. Talking with S&B they think it should be fine.

Thoughts?  Here's a link:

https://www.sbfilters.com/particle-separator/yamaha-yxz-1000r-76-2004
Good idea, but quite pricey. I don't get so much of a dust problem as some of you do it seems. I would be more apt to stick the snorkel higher again to just grab cleaner air if it were me. I also don't like the amperage draw. I find my battery slowly depletes as is just running the stock lights and my 13" light bar since most of my riding is at night. I wouldn't want to add another constant draw.
Wow...somethings wrong then. You should be able to run another 10-13 amps on top of all the factory draws..including all the stock lights and still charge the battery. That little fan in the separator is almost nothing.
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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #100 on: November 02, 2018, 09:38:12 AM »
THANKS A LOT FOR SOME RESON I COULD NOT COME UP WITH THAT MUST HAVE BEEN TYPING IN WRONGM, THANKS AGAIN, LYNN
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4600 LB WINCH  HOMEMADE BACKBONES
SUPER ATV FULL TILT WINDSHIELD
DUAL BATTERYS   CUSTOM AIR FILTER RELOCATION
42 IN LIGHT BAR, PLUS 4IN SPOTS
TWO BROTHERS EXHAUST
TWIN AIR FILTER
HOME MADE DOORS
TUSK INSIDE ROOF PACK
DOUGLAS MOAPA RUN FLAT TIRES 28  10 FT 12 REAR DOUGLAS STEALTH 8 IN WHEELS FRT, 10 IN WHEELS REAR
QUICK DISCONNECT FIRE EXT
RACKBOSS RACK AND PINION WITH UPGRADED TIRE RODS AND ENDS
EJK TUNER
PRO ARMOR 5 POINT BELTS
23 GRAM DR. PULLEY SLIDERS
SECONDARY CLOCKED TO C2
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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #101 on: November 02, 2018, 09:43:33 AM »
THANKS A LOT FOR SOME RESON I COULD NOT COME UP WITH THAT MUST HAVE BEEN TYPING IN WRONGM, THANKS AGAIN, LYNN
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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #102 on: November 05, 2018, 10:40:19 AM »
Well..ever sense a friend installed a particle separator on his Ranger and reduced his air filter changes from twice a month to less then once a year I have been thinking hard about that. Then S&B came out with one with a 3.5" center discharge for the YXZ and it came to me that I could mount that thing in the middle, throw on a 3.5" to 3" turbo "Y" and take them to each stack...and that the one would probably be enough for both the engine and CVT. That would end my clearing the CVT filter every 30-50 miles and all but stop the cleaning of the engine air but once or twice a year like my friends. Talking with S&B they think it should be fine.

Thoughts?  Here's a link:

https://www.sbfilters.com/particle-separator/yamaha-yxz-1000r-76-2004
Good idea, but quite pricey. I don't get so much of a dust problem as some of you do it seems. I would be more apt to stick the snorkel higher again to just grab cleaner air if it were me. I also don't like the amperage draw. I find my battery slowly depletes as is just running the stock lights and my 13" light bar since most of my riding is at night. I wouldn't want to add another constant draw.
Wow...somethings wrong then. You should be able to run another 10-13 amps on top of all the factory draws..including all the stock lights and still charge the battery. That little fan in the separator is almost nothing.
Well I recently installed a dual battery set up in I think May. I have been out riding twice one 30 mile runs. I don't put the batteries on a tender while not in use, so that is more likely my problem. Last time I took it out it cranked a little slow, I went riding anyway as I have the second battery in case I need extra juice, once I was riding and she warmed up it started better. Yet when I brought it back home I put it on the charger and after 4 hours of riding the battery charger say I was at 57%. Granted it is just a cheap Walmart charger, it seems fairly accurate with the percentages. So I came to the conclusion just based on gut feeling, that the machine does not output much more than it is using while running at night with headlights and one 13" LED light bar.

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Re: Intake Stacks/Snorkels of the ZForce 800 With Filters
« Reply #103 on: November 05, 2018, 10:54:17 AM »
Need to fully charge those batteries. It may take a day or more on a tender but leave it until they top-off. One of my USB plugs has a volt meter on it and I can run it with all my lights on, GoPro, LED bar, GPS and the CVT booster fan and it stays at 14.4 volts above 2500 rpm. At idle it does come down to 13.7 but that's to be expected. Need to see where yours is. You may have a bad coil in the stator or something with the rectifier/regulator.
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