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Offline NMKawierider

An Alternative Harness Mount for US Z models
« on: August 24, 2016, 06:45:14 PM »
Alternative Harness Mount for US ZForces.. possibly UForces


As many of you know the US versions of the Z Forces do not have the upper harness mount like other do. Because of that we must tie our straps directly to the bar which makes the straps come around the seat lower then it would normally. For me this makes me not buckling the upper buckle as it slams into my neck but without it buckled the harness tends to fall off the shoulders . I also raised my seat an inch which made the situation even worse.. so much so that I found myself not using the harness when I should be... I started looking for what it would take to remedy this  problem. Loosening the mount strap and allowing it move up and forward was the answer but without the clamps I had to secure them, they would slide all over the place. A mount was needed to use the extra mounting hardware that came with the set and to emulate the mounting options others outside the states have. Sense these HD cage mounts are rated for  many hundreds of pounds I decided to try a set.
This is the set I picked. A slimmer set would have been better but that bar is slightly larger then 1.5” and I couldn’t fine one so these were it:


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VQ08GFE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If your harness's require two mounting points, just buy two sets. My SATV set only has one mounting point so I just needed one set.

With a little drilling and recessing of the shoulder, the SATV brackets installed fairly easily and with the bolt torqued and loc-tited they should be good to go. I then cut the head off the bolt to protect the seat. With a slight rubber adjustment and the aid of a bar clamp they went right on.



I did have to set the seats about an inch from the bar but that’s it. Just re-connect the straps using the SATV mount and the shoulder straps although are now closer to the top of the seat, the upper buckle is at least 3”s lower and no longer in my neck.









If you are having the same problem this may be an answer for you.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2016, 06:47:32 PM by NMKawierider »
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
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Offline gfmoto

Re: An Alternative Harness Mount for US Z models
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2016, 07:37:16 PM »
Love that idea.  I'd really like to have a harness, but like you , I knew it didn't have the harness bar behind the seats.  I thought about having them welded in with tabs, but wasn't sure if that may damage the cage itself. 
2015 ZForce 800EX
32" light bar
2-4" spots
Custom Cv guards
DIY 1/2 windshield
UNI air filter
DIY rear window
BOSS ATV 28. 450W speakers
Alpena Rock Lights (tough pods)
2" RZR Bracket lift
Roof extensions
27" Maxxis Corranado Tires
Alpena RGB rock lights
SuperATV Rocksliders
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: An Alternative Harness Mount for US Z models
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2016, 07:45:55 PM »
If you can find something like these in a 1.5" I think they would be better and not interfere with the seat..much thinner and wider. I just couldn't find them.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015P169E4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
2015 Z Force 800 53/Trail EPS
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage |7- 9.7" GPS Systems | Bandit Springs Rear & Gen-3 Shocks Front | Cage Chop Mod

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Offline gfmoto

Re: An Alternative Harness Mount for US Z models
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2016, 07:55:07 PM »
I'll see what I can find. Starting my new job with a fastener company. Sure to have any fastener you may need. They said they'll even fab them if they don't exist.
2015 ZForce 800EX
32" light bar
2-4" spots
Custom Cv guards
DIY 1/2 windshield
UNI air filter
DIY rear window
BOSS ATV 28. 450W speakers
Alpena Rock Lights (tough pods)
2" RZR Bracket lift
Roof extensions
27" Maxxis Corranado Tires
Alpena RGB rock lights
SuperATV Rocksliders
1/2 Doors w/custom paint and graphics

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Offline Wheels

Re: An Alternative Harness Mount for US Z models
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2016, 09:50:48 PM »
I'm intrigued with CFmoto USA not importing the Z model with the factory 5 point not preinstalled.
Shoulder belt 3 point is useless.
you can order the lower rear roll cage with mounts from factory
If it has Pistons or Tits you will encounter problems.

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Offline chuddly

Re: An Alternative Harness Mount for US Z models
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2016, 08:11:42 AM »
I just last night mounted up my Pro Armor harnesses.  I (have in the past and did again on the CF Moto) took the metal tabs off the shoulder belt part and wrap the belt material around the bar its self.  Now I will also add that my harnesses are the "H" style with 2 mounting points for the shoulder belts.  I have always found these to be the most comfortable because its never pulling against your neck and always going straight back to the harness bar.  You also want to make sure that your chest straps are adjusted properly with the latch that goes across your chest being directly across your chest because there is the most meat there and in the event of a impact it will soften the blow.  I also adjust my should straps so they are about 1" off my chest for 99% of my riding.  Some will argue this but let me explain why.  This allows your upper torso to pivot and take a lot of the shock and bumps out of the ride that otherwise will transfer into you and cause headaches/general pain over the day or days of riding.  Now if I'm rolling up to a nasty hill or jump and I know there is a very  real possiblity of rolling it or crashing I will tighten down the belts with a quick tug on each shoulder strap and then when I'm just normal riding again a quick pull up on the loosening strap puts me back to where I was.  I didnt bother to take any pictures of my set up last night but I will in the next day or 2 and post them up here.  Just some food for though.
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