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Offline NMKawierider

Water pump lubricants
« on: June 07, 2019, 12:26:36 PM »
Not needed much anymore but in the old days my Dad always put a little in to give the mechanical seal a longer life. From then to today, as a rule of thumb I always added a little when I did a coolant change to about everything.. but didn't on my ZForce...and was thinking about it just the other day when I noticed another drip from my weep how these Chinese metals likes to rust and corrode faster then other's.. and how those partials being circulated around could shorten the life of that.."already questionable"...mechanical seal. So..she got a little dose of what I use and have had real good luck with over the years. Just about a 1/4- 1/2 of a cup. Ran it a while after the fan came on, made sure the radiator was full to the top and sealed it up. Probably meaningless but I feel better that I gave the seal all the help and chance I could. This is what I use if anyone is interested.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GQ5XC8M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

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Offline glenlivet

Re: Water pump lubricants
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2019, 02:23:28 PM »
Thanks for the tip
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Offline Davydo

Re: Water pump lubricants
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2019, 04:41:09 AM »
Not needed much anymore but in the old days my Dad always put a little in to give the mechanical seal a longer life. From then to today, as a rule of thumb I always added a little when I did a coolant change to about everything.. but didn't on my ZForce...and was thinking about it just the other day when I noticed another drip from my weep how these Chinese metals likes to rust and corrode faster then other's.. and how those partials being circulated around could shorten the life of that.."already questionable"...mechanical seal. So..she got a little dose of what I use and have had real good luck with over the years. Just about a 1/4- 1/2 of a cup. Ran it a while after the fan came on, made sure the radiator was full to the top and sealed it up. Probably meaningless but I feel better that I gave the seal all the help and chance I could. This is what I use if anyone is interested.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GQ5XC8M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 

Let us know how it works out. I too get that ever so insignificant small drip, mine doesn't even leave a wet spot on the floor.
2016 Zforce 500, 1/2 windshield, manual fan rocker switch, Uni-filter two stage, Uni-filter 30 ppi secondary installed over intake neck between seats.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Water pump lubricants
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2019, 07:15:07 AM »
Not needed much anymore but in the old days my Dad always put a little in to give the mechanical seal a longer life. From then to today, as a rule of thumb I always added a little when I did a coolant change to about everything.. but didn't on my ZForce...and was thinking about it just the other day when I noticed another drip from my weep how these Chinese metals likes to rust and corrode faster then other's.. and how those partials being circulated around could shorten the life of that.."already questionable"...mechanical seal. So..she got a little dose of what I use and have had real good luck with over the years. Just about a 1/4- 1/2 of a cup. Ran it a while after the fan came on, made sure the radiator was full to the top and sealed it up. Probably meaningless but I feel better that I gave the seal all the help and chance I could. This is what I use if anyone is interested.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GQ5XC8M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 

Let us know how it works out. I too get that ever so insignificant small drip, mine doesn't even leave a wet spot on the floor.
When new mine leaked pretty good for the first 200 miles or so then slowed down. Then I changed the coolant to a better quality and it quit..for the next 1100 miles then it started to drip once in a while again. I will say that at least it didn't after putting this in...but that's not a real test. Next hard ride should tell if it helped or not but I was just looking for making it last a while longer.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

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Offline ctdls

Re: Water pump lubricants
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2019, 08:21:50 AM »
I often wonder about fluid quality & the differences China uses, maybe there isn't any. We all know what happens to the antifreeze & brake fluid that many owners leave for years beyond the recommended replacement time frames.

It's not unusually to see antifreeze in that line when the units are brand new, normally it does not develop into anything. Just seen a failure @ 3600km's, it had been perfect to that point. I may still have it & could post photo's if interested.

As far as I know this was original antifreeze.
ZF 800 LX Trail, stock for now.......not for long.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Water pump lubricants
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2019, 08:48:00 AM »
I often wonder about fluid quality & the differences China uses, maybe there isn't any. We all know what happens to the antifreeze & brake fluid that many owners leave for years beyond the recommended replacement time frames.

It's not unusually to see antifreeze in that line when the units are brand new, normally it does not develop into anything. Just seen a failure @ 3600km's, it had been perfect to that point. I may still have it & could post photo's if interested.

As far as I know this was original antifreeze.
I only changed mine because of reports of jelling in the journal and head areas on units just built a few month earlier. Wasn't going to take that chance. CFM said they switch suppliers before my build date but to me that didn't mean they were using new stock so..out it came.   
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline murdo

Re: Water pump lubricants
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2019, 03:45:08 AM »
I have gone totally waterless coolant in all my water cooled bikes. Seems to lubricate the  seals and no drips.