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Offline iec

Which cvt belt?
« on: November 27, 2018, 07:44:12 PM »
Hi all...

I understand that the GATES belt is the best for the 800EX... but is there several models of belts or there is only one?
When i search on ebay for GATES BELT i can see that it gives me two results:

1.GATES HIGH PERFORMANCE DRIVE BELT FOR CF MOTO ZFORCE 800 EX 2014 2015 2016 for 71$

2. GATES CARBON CORD DRIVE BELT FOR CF MOTO ZFORCE 800 EX 2014 2015 2016 for 102$

they have the same number : 40G3691

What is the best for my 2016 Zforce  800EX?

Best regards,
« Last Edit: November 27, 2018, 07:56:19 PM by iec »
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Which cvt belt?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2018, 08:26:09 PM »
Hi all...

I understand that the GATES belt is the best for the 800EX... but is there several models of belts or there is only one?
When i search on ebay for GATES BELT i can see that it gives me two results:

1.GATES HIGH PERFORMANCE DRIVE BELT FOR CF MOTO ZFORCE 800 EX 2014 2015 2016 for 71$

2. GATES CARBON CORD DRIVE BELT FOR CF MOTO ZFORCE 800 EX 2014 2015 2016 for 102$

they have the same number : 40G3691

What is the best for my 2016 Zforce  800EX?

Best regards,

Although the "G" and "C" belts will fit all the 800s, it's the "C" or carbon belt that is designed for the heavier vehicle and loads. However, with that said, if you never climb hills, haul extra people, play in mud or sand, then the "G" belt may get you by.

Make NO mistake though, even the 40C3691 Gates is less of a belt then the OEM...as it is in all brands. But, for the money...and savings, its not a bad belt.
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Offline iec

Re: Which cvt belt?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2018, 09:56:49 PM »
Thanks for your quick reply!

Do you think the OEM is better/last longer that the Gates Carbon?
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Which cvt belt?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2018, 08:46:13 AM »
Thanks for your quick reply!

Do you think the OEM is better/last longer that the Gates Carbon?
Of course it will...but at 3-times the cost. That's the real difference between CFM belts and anyone else's. For example, the most an OEM Kawasaki belt would cost me was 110 where the CFM OEM is over 320. The carbon belt will be fine. Everyone is happy with it.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

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Offline davidpaul

Re: Which cvt belt?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2018, 02:39:32 PM »
I have a Gates belt on mine seems ok, it's only done a few hundred miles tho, the original CF Moto done 6000 miles of medium use
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Offline bwzforce800

Re: Which cvt belt?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2019, 01:01:54 AM »
Hey Clark I pmd you on Facebook.  Just incase you dont get my message there , , ,I put my new Gates belt on my z800 about 300 miles ago , 40C3691. I used scotch brite to clean up sheaves on both clutches.   Broke in the belt the way gates recommended , 2 heat cycles.   Yesterday once and today my belt chirped 2 times. I dont go through water deep enough to get water in CVT so there is no water in there. My old original belt did the same thing.
If I come to quick stop in say high and go to Low and then go pull out it will chirp. Makes no sense.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Which cvt belt?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2019, 03:02:40 AM »
Hey Clark I pmd you on Facebook.  Just incase you dont get my message there , , ,I put my new Gates belt on my z800 about 300 miles ago , 40C3691. I used scotch brite to clean up sheaves on both clutches.   Broke in the belt the way gates recommended , 2 heat cycles.   Yesterday once and today my belt chirped 2 times. I dont go through water deep enough to get water in CVT so there is no water in there. My old original belt did the same thing.
If I come to quick stop in say high and go to Low and then go pull out it will chirp. Makes no sense.
That's unnerving. But its the first one doing that I have heard of with no reason... wait..there's always a reason. I guess pull the cover and check everything out.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

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Offline glenlivet

Re: Which cvt belt?
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2019, 10:47:27 AM »
It's normal. That one has a wet clutch and constant tension CVT. When you come to a 'quick stop' the belt doesn't get a chance to reset all the way to the top of the secondary clutch and as that clutch is spring loaded, the belt stops somewhere lower than where it should be at full reduction. When you lock the back end up the secondary sheave stops turning and the belt stays where it is partway down the secondary sheaves.
 But there's nothing to prevent the primary clutch from opening all the way and it does, so the belt gets a bit of slack in it, which it shouldn't really have. This means next time you take off from a standing start the centrifugal clutch will make the front clutch start to whirl around until the weights throw out and the clutch slams shut and grabs the belt. That's why it chirps and lurches. Belt Bark, it's called. Same reason a plane's tires chirp when it comes in to land. You've make your CVT into a belt slamming Polaris! 8)

It's harmless. It'll do the same thing if you come to a halt with some throttle on, like if you are plowing snow and ram into a snow bank. Chirp next time you move.
You can make it not chirp after one of those locked up stops, by putting it in neutral and giving it one quick rev to reset the CVT. Or not, it doesn't hurt anything, that's just why it chirps.  :D
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