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Offline NMKawierider

Re: What oil?
« Reply #60 on: October 26, 2016, 01:18:47 PM »
I'm going to go ahead and put an apology out there if this was mentioned already, I tried to do a quick read through of the threads.  But as far as the K&N Oil filter goes (KN-152), have you guys had good luck with those or are you sticking with the factory filter?  Before it gets too cold, going to make the switch to what NMK suggested earlier with the RS Power 4T synthetic or Castrol Power 1 10W-40.
Yeah I use the Power RS Racing 4T 10/40. Like it a lot. 200 miles on it and I still have hell seeing it on the stick it's still so clear.
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Offline gwingo12

Re: What oil?
« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2016, 01:55:27 PM »
Sounds good.....but how about that K&N filter?  Good with that or stick with factory?
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: What oil?
« Reply #62 on: October 26, 2016, 02:45:29 PM »
Sounds good.....but how about that K&N filter?  Good with that or stick with factory?
I use the CFM filter but many do use the K&N with no issues...that they know of....
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Offline davidpaul

Re: What oil?
« Reply #63 on: October 26, 2016, 03:02:38 PM »
Motul 5100 10w40 Ester Semi Synthetic in mine, my wet clutch loves it first time 3700 miles it's not dropping out of engagement at low speed 
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Offline gwingo12

Re: What oil?
« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2016, 08:01:45 AM »
Thanks for the replies!
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Offline gfmoto

Re: What oil?
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2016, 05:57:23 PM »
I picked up a gallon of Shell rotella 15/40 getting ready to do mine close to the 500 mile mark and this will be the third oil change its had. Then going with the every 500 from here on out.
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Offline REDRIDER

Re: What oil?
« Reply #66 on: November 18, 2016, 12:49:30 PM »
shell rotella t6 5w/40

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Offline HillbillyParamedic

Re: What oil?
« Reply #67 on: March 06, 2017, 11:29:58 AM »
Looking over this entire thread I can't believe I haven't found somebody that uses Valvoline ATV oil 10w40, I guess I'm the only one! I'm getting ready to change my oil for the first time and have been a die-hard Valvoline fan ever since my teenage years. I'm thinking I'm the number one reason their stock prices went up. Anyway just for a thought, it's my opinion that a person changes oil in their ORV due to contamination. Wouldn't it be just a waste of money to use synthetic when you're not going to get any more miles out of regular ATV oil? Just a question so don't get mad at me. LOL
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: What oil?
« Reply #68 on: March 06, 2017, 11:57:59 AM »
There are a number of benefits that favor synthetic oil and in some applications, some draw-backs. In applications where there are higher levels of temperature changes, higher RPMs, the need for better film consistency and/or the need to lower frictional wear due to lower quality parts, all which fit any motorcycle...and CFM applications, a quality synthetic oil can extend an engine's operational life span greatly. However, the use of some synthetics in some applications has some drawbacks. Some of those are in plated cylinders, friction devices such as wet clutches and in some types of gaskets and seals that were not designed for the use of an oil with the molecule type of synthetics. Fortunately CFMoto's engines can take synthetic oils and as long as it has the correct additives,(mostly JASO) can be used with wet clutches. I choose the oil I use based on test results and people's reviews. I can safely say I find it to be the best oil for a shared-sump, higher RPM small engine I have ever used. I wish I could use it in my Kawasaki but..with plated cylinders it burns synthetic oils so.. for me, it's worth the extra money to ensure all is getting the best protection I can give it. Besides....in the long run...oil is cheap, engines rebuilds.. aren't. And these have has enough rod bearing issues to make me..at least...want the best it can get there.
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Offline HillbillyParamedic

Re: What oil?
« Reply #69 on: March 06, 2017, 03:07:27 PM »
I couldn't agree with you more NMK.  Just keep in mind that statistics prove over and over again that engine failure isn't caused by synthetic or non-synthetic oil. The majority of the time it is the lack of oil changes especially in ORV applications. Also to improve upon that, is the use of a quality oil filter and air filter more than use of synthetic or non synthetic oils. Being proud of one's brand of oil and the type that you use is really important as well. Just don't let the pride of your oil decrease the amount of changes that you should be doing for the environment you drive in. If you should be changing your oil every 500 Miles based on dust and environmental issues that should be done with any brand or type of oil. FYI Valvoline ATV motor oil meets Jaso standards as well as API services SF / SG / SJ. 😈Probably just like your favorite brand. I personally don't believe the CF Moto filter is quality enough to run synthetic oil myself. So my oil changes will be frequent, probably less than 500 miles. This opinion is based on the quality of material used in the filter and the surface area that it covers. One thing I do understand is that a oil changing is full of opinions, of course everybody has an opinion just like a nose. So the moral to my story is if you want to improve the life of your engine, use your favorite oil but also use the best quality filters and other materials that you can and change frequently frequently frequently. Also if you want to see what is going on inside your engine, do a Blackstone Laboratories test.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: What oil?
« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2017, 03:43:44 PM »
Agreed. More important to give it the maintenance it needs..when..or before.. it needs it.. I always change my ORV's oils between 4-700 miles depending on use anyway..no matter what oil I use. Although...I have almost 300 miles on this Castrol Power-RS now and if I put a drop off the stick on a white paper towel and one out of the bottle next to it, there is almost no change in color where with the previous conventional there was a big difference. Maybe it's just broke-in finally.
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Offline HillbillyParamedic

Re: What oil?
« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2017, 05:57:20 PM »
Really!  How many miles you have on your moto now? Have you ever done a Blackstone test. Thinking about doing one after my first 300. Then maybe one 1000 later.... Just to see what came out of a breakin.
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Offline NMKawierider

Re: What oil?
« Reply #72 on: March 06, 2017, 06:41:57 PM »
Really!  How many miles you have on your moto now? Have you ever done a Blackstone test. Thinking about doing one after my first 300. Then maybe one 1000 later.... Just to see what came out of a breakin.
Just a little over 900 now. It's now running so clean I haven't thought about having a Blackstone test done. I did change it three times in it's first 600 miles though. Each time...except the last one.. looked like it was going to be due pretty soon.
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Offline Hal

Re: What oil?
« Reply #73 on: March 06, 2017, 07:53:02 PM »
Just did my first oil change @250 miles and the old oil looked like it just came out of the bottle. I have been taking it easy for the breakin period but the oil really looked great. The front diff was clear but haven't used it much. The rear had plenty of 'color' in it though, typical of new R&P's. Went with Rotella 15w40 for the first change and 80w90 Amsoil in the diffs. Will switch to Amsoil UTV oil next change although the T6 Rotella might be where I go after using up the Amsoil I have in stock.
Hal

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Offline HillbillyParamedic

Re: What oil?
« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2017, 12:24:56 PM »
Just did my first oil change @250 miles and the old oil looked like it just came out of the bottle. I have been taking it easy for the breakin period but the oil really looked great. The front diff was clear but haven't used it much. The rear had plenty of 'color' in it though, typical of new R&P's. Went with Rotella 15w40 for the first change and 80w90 Amsoil in the diffs. Will switch to Amsoil UTV oil next change although the T6 Rotella might be where I go after using up the Amsoil I have in stock.
Hal
What did you change that oil from?
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