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Offline glenlivet

Re: New springs :)
« Reply #90 on: December 10, 2018, 08:58:02 AM »
...several of the lighter coils have completely collapsed and others are nearly there...
Your first two pics show how my stock shocks were/still are in a box. At rest, installed and with four on the ground, the end 5 turns of each end of the 15 coil springs were at virtual coil-bind. This means that only 1/3 of the spring was in use, the top five coils and bottom five coils may as well have been solid pipe.
For a nation to believe it can tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and believing he can raise himself by pulling on the handle - Winston Churchill

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #91 on: December 10, 2018, 09:06:08 AM »
...several of the lighter coils have completely collapsed and others are nearly there...
Your first two pics show how my stock shocks were/still are in a box. At rest, installed and with four on the ground, the end 5 turns of each end of the 15 coil springs were at virtual coil-bind. This means that only 1/3 of the spring was in use, the top five coils and bottom five coils may as well have been solid pipe.

Yeah...and they didn't start out that way. My fronts weren't that bad when I did the rears but after just a couple of rides they went to sh*t. Can't wait until we get to go for a ride in the rocky trails north of us. Just kicking it around the yard it feels like ...well like someone else's machine...lol
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

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Offline doug80638

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #92 on: December 11, 2018, 04:49:04 PM »

Front springs arrived today. I hope to find time this weekend to install them.

I guess I'll have to reset the shock settings back to neutral and start the adjustment process all over again.
2017 Zforce 800 - Red
SuperATV Flip windshield
Tusk soft rear window
Twin-Air foam air filter

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #93 on: December 11, 2018, 05:17:48 PM »

Front springs arrived today. I hope to find time this weekend to install them.

I guess I'll have to reset the shock settings back to neutral and start the adjustment process all over again.
I just left mine where they were. The rears were just fine and it looks like the fronts will be pretty close as is.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

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Offline Tatohead

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2018, 06:20:33 PM »
My Stage 1 Elkas just arrived via FedEx.  Hope I made the right choice over just new springs.  Oh well Merry Christmas everyone.
Tatohead
2017 ZForce 800 EPS Trail, Elka Stage 1 shocks, STI HD9 Beadlock wheels, CST Clincher tires, EJK Tuner, Custom Air Filter, Pro-Armour 4-Point Harness, 32" Light Bar, Z1000 Doors with custom lower door panels, adjustable drivers side seat base, Diamond Plate Storage, Super ATV Flip up Windshield, Soft Rear Window, Ram mounts for GPS and 2-Way Radio, Dr. Pulley Sliders (25g), B2 secondary, more to come...

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2018, 07:10:24 PM »
My Stage 1 Elkas just arrived via FedEx.  Hope I made the right choice over just new springs.  Oh well Merry Christmas everyone.
You will be more then happy. Heck of a Christmas pressent. :) When I start loosing shocks, its Elka..or I might have Bandit build me a set. They say they can build a stronger shock them Elka for less.

2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

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Offline doug80638

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2018, 01:44:51 PM »

Front springs are in! I set it up for an additional 1/2 inch of clearance when compared to before the changeover.

I didn't realize that the springs would have to be compressed in order to get them off the shock. I didn't have any spring compressors so I ended up using a couple of tie-down ratchet straps. A little clunky but it worked. Releasing the tension is "entertaining". The benefit of the straps was no scratching up the new springs :-)

It has much improved suspension response and a softer rebound just tooling around the yard.

I'm looking forward to a real ride up north in January!

2017 Zforce 800 - Red
SuperATV Flip windshield
Tusk soft rear window
Twin-Air foam air filter

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Offline glenlivet

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2018, 05:27:59 PM »
My Stage 1 Elkas just arrived via FedEx.  Hope I made the right choice over just new springs.  Oh well Merry Christmas everyone.
The springs are undoubtedly a good upgrade but you didn't do wrong getting Elkas. The Elka's provide an additional 3/4" front and 1 1/2"  rear travel, if I remember right. That's a big boost on a machine that has pretty limited shock travel out of the crate. (something like 2" shock travel rear and 2 1/2" front)

That and the valving, though not adjustable on the base Elkas appears to be better than anything I could fiddle with to gain on the stock shocks' knurl knobs.
Everything we do to the stock shocks including replacing them, makes them better. That says something.
For a nation to believe it can tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and believing he can raise himself by pulling on the handle - Winston Churchill

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #98 on: December 16, 2018, 05:51:21 PM »
Just got back from the first ride with the new springs. Yes..much improvement. Much smoother and much better overall feel. I could have rode for many more hours. Well worth the money.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline motoman

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #99 on: February 08, 2019, 07:01:52 PM »
Just pulled the trigger on these new springs NMK is so big on. Over 400 Canadian, with taxes and shipping.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #100 on: February 08, 2019, 08:02:51 PM »
Just pulled the trigger on these new springs NMK is so big on. Over 400 Canadian, with taxes and shipping.
Yikes!..man they sure get you guys. Well, way cheaper then a new set of shocks. I'll bet you can get Elkas cheaper then we can...lol
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline motoman

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #101 on: February 09, 2019, 06:39:51 AM »
Yeah. $121 for shipping. Just wanted to let the Canadian members know what the cost is.

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Online ctdls

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #102 on: February 09, 2019, 06:52:13 AM »
How are they shipping? USPS is the most economical, UPS is whom I refer to as the shipping Nazi's.
ZF 800 LX Trail, stock for now.......not for long.

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Offline motoman

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #103 on: February 09, 2019, 07:14:18 AM »
Just ordered last night. Got a notification today saying they are shipped by USPS. Let you know when they show up.

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Offline Sockman

Re: New Springs for the 800 Trail
« Reply #104 on: February 16, 2019, 07:42:27 PM »
Ok, got the rear shocks measured on the 800 EX.  22 3/16" eye to eye. 

I just installed the superatv rear high clearance a-arms, so made sure to measure it.  The rear spring is really wound down on the rears, almost until it is out of threads.  Would kill to have a nice soft spring on the rear that kept the ground clearance about where it is at (12" or so).
2017 Zforce 800 EX
UNI filter, SuperATV high clearance a-arms, half windshield, rear windshield, custom overhead storage, Grim Reapers