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Offline Hansel

Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« on: September 09, 2015, 08:41:47 pm »
I'm at 411 miles on my Z8EX and just changed my front brake pads.  They were toast.  The brake pedal went to mush and the front brake reservoir looked empty, as the black rubber diaphragm had completely expanded into the reservoir.  The back brakes still had about half their original pad surface, when compared with the new ones.

I asked the dealer what the life expectancy was on the brakes.  He said 300-500 miles, depending on the mud/sand/speed/driving style mix.  Anyway, I got a set of pads all the way around for $87, CF Moto pads from the dealer.  I looked into some EBC pads and they do have a part number for the Z8, but there are no US distributors.  Seems that CF Moto has a decent foot print in Canada, but I haven't been able to find a Revzilla/Rocky Mountain ATV equivalent up in Canada that sources them.  That being said, I wonder how much the EBC pads would cost and if they would have enough life to make it worth it.  I come from a sport bike, track day background and EBC/Galfer/Braking pads were always better in performance and life than OEM replacements.  Thoughts?

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emersonsc

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2015, 08:46:05 pm »
I'm at 411 miles on my Z8EX and just changed my front brake pads.  They were toast.  The brake pedal went to mush and the front brake reservoir looked empty, as the black rubber diaphragm had completely expanded into the reservoir.  The back brakes still had about half their original pad surface, when compared with the new ones.

I asked the dealer what the life expectancy was on the brakes.  He said 300-500 miles, depending on the mud/sand/speed/driving style mix.  Anyway, I got a set of pads all the way around for $87, CF Moto pads from the dealer.  I looked into some EBC pads and they do have a part number for the Z8, but there are no US distributors.  Seems that CF Moto has a decent foot print in Canada, but I haven't been able to find a Revzilla/Rocky Mountain ATV equivalent up in Canada that sources them.  That being said, I wonder how much the EBC pads would cost and if they would have enough life to make it worth it.  I come from a sport bike, track day background and EBC/Galfer/Braking pads were always better in performance and life than OEM replacements.  Thoughts?

Get me the EBC part number and I will look into it. I sell EBC brake components so I cant see why I couldnt get a hold of them.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2015, 09:22:50 pm »
I'm having a hard time with only getting 4-500 miles out of them. I have almost 5000 miles on my Brute Force and it's pads are still more then 50% there. It has a very good engine brake though. An interesting side note...the engine braking is way stronger on the Z8 when the secondary spring is in the B2 position. Less use of the brakes means longer pad life...
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emersonsc

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2015, 09:25:32 pm »
I'm at 411 miles on my Z8EX and just changed my front brake pads.  They were toast.  The brake pedal went to mush and the front brake reservoir looked empty, as the black rubber diaphragm had completely expanded into the reservoir.  The back brakes still had about half their original pad surface, when compared with the new ones.

I asked the dealer what the life expectancy was on the brakes.  He said 300-500 miles, depending on the mud/sand/speed/driving style mix.  Anyway, I got a set of pads all the way around for $87, CF Moto pads from the dealer.  I looked into some EBC pads and they do have a part number for the Z8, but there are no US distributors.  Seems that CF Moto has a decent foot print in Canada, but I haven't been able to find a Revzilla/Rocky Mountain ATV equivalent up in Canada that sources them.  That being said, I wonder how much the EBC pads would cost and if they would have enough life to make it worth it.  I come from a sport bike, track day background and EBC/Galfer/Braking pads were always better in performance and life than OEM replacements.  Thoughts?

Ok, so I did some digging on my own and this is what I found.

EBC seems to make brake pads for every CFMoto model.

EBC brakes are FA135 (Front Left) & FA165 (Front Right) which is used by several other brands, including Can-Am, Yamaha, and Suzuki. They also have several different types, like heavy duty, standard, ect. I have two suppliers that I get my EBC brakes from, both have these in stock.

For the rears, you will use FA651, which seem to be specific to CFMoto. One of my distributors does NOT carry them. The other one I wont be able to check until the AM.

« Last Edit: September 09, 2015, 09:58:51 pm by emersonsc »

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emersonsc

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2015, 10:05:23 pm »
Something Else I wanted to point out:

CFmoto offers a "sintered brake pad" option for the front and rears. I wonder if these are EBCs...

7000-0801A0    REAR BRAKE PAD    SIINTERED BRAKE PAD, AFTER-SALE,OPTIONAL                      $38.96
7000-0808A0    FRONT BRAKE PAD,RH    SIINTERED BRAKE PAD, AFTER-SALE,OPTIONAL                   $30.97
7000-0809A0    FRONT BRAKE PAD,LH    SIINTERED BRAKE PAD, AFTER-SALE,OPTIONAL                   $30.97     

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emersonsc

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2015, 11:41:26 am »
These are available through Automatic and WPS, both. the FA135 & FA165. I have not been able to find a distributor that stocks the rears, FA651

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Offline bezerk1

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2015, 01:58:49 pm »
I like EBC pads.  I've won many races with EBC pads.  When the rear brakes on my Polaris Sportsman wore out I replaced them with EBC.  I felt like I got better braking force out of them.  I know they will last a lot longer.  I always used semi-metallic.  The braking on the CFMoto is mediocre.  I think new pads will make it brake like it should.  Like NMKawi said the CFMoto has a ton of engine braking.  Even with stock clutch settings.

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2015, 06:18:44 am »
Will those ebc part numbers fit both the z8 and z6 or just the z8?

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2015, 02:26:43 pm »
That picture looks like a fake k&n to me.

It should have a k&n logo on and a part number below the logo.

I'm looking at k&n apollos on ebay and almost all of them are fakes!

Beware

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emersonsc

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2015, 03:52:51 pm »
That picture looks like a fake k&n to me.

It should have a k&n logo on and a part number below the logo.

I'm looking at k&n apollos on ebay and almost all of them are fakes!

Beware

…? wtf are you talking about?

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Offline alienc

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2016, 01:42:50 pm »
I wanted to reply directly to this topic even despite the age as it's the only one I could find directly related to using aftermarket brake pads.

For a CForce 500, which I think is an X5 in the US, if you take a FA159R from EBC and drill out the holes with a 1/2 drill so they are round, they fit and work great.  I did this last year and got over 1,000km on them.  In fact I replaced them last night and there was still about 30% pad left.  The stock ones from CFMoto I got about 350km out of them and they were completely gone.

And at least from where I bought them, the EBC ones were actually cheaper than the CFmoto OEM ones.

** I just looked now and the ones I used they now have one that is an exact (at least for mine).  2015 Cforce 500.  EBC FA453R.  They do list the one that were listed above too for the older models, I guess you really have to look at your pads to see which ones you have **
« Last Edit: March 27, 2016, 01:50:14 pm by alienc »

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Offline NL800

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2016, 06:56:41 pm »
I have a 2014 cforce 800 with 2000kms (1240 miles) and I just checked mine the other day and they are only about half way worn.
2014 Terralander 800 EPS
Elka Shocks
CFMOTO Windshield
Front and rear cargo boxes
Garmin eTrex 20 GPS
Wasp Action Camera
Rear Winch

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Offline Nighthawk

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2016, 12:10:34 am »
Replaced my pads tonight. About 650 miles on them, not much left on 3 pads, and the 4th just barely completely gone on one end.
Hard miles, loaded down, stop and go, mudd, and alot of coal+shale.

$14 bucks for both front sides, shipped on ebay from Sixty. Seem to be decent pads. Part numbers are fa135 and fa165.
They cross reference to alot of machines,  same pads the Suzuki ltr 450 uses up front, so there pretty easy to find. For the price I just don't think you can go wrong.
Will be out riding Saturday,  I'll report back.

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Offline Nighthawk

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2016, 11:46:55 am »
Pads preformed well! Better braking then the stock pads ever had and at $14 bucks shipped for both side's, I'm going to order a 2nd set to keep ready on the shelf.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Brake Life and Aftermarket Pads?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2016, 12:34:45 pm »
Pads preformed well! Better braking then the stock pads ever had and at $14 bucks shipped for both side's, I'm going to order a 2nd set to keep ready on the shelf.
Really good news as mine have always sucked..however at 560 miles my pads still look pretty good. Might replace them anyway just to get better stopping power. As is almost have to use both feet to get it to stop...almost. When I drove my friend's RzR I hit the brakes like mine and almost put me over the steering wheel..would like to have something more like that...which would be more normal.

Can you post links to these sets?  Thanks
« Last Edit: April 03, 2016, 12:42:15 pm by NMKawierider »
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