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Offline mike17901

A-arm bushings
« on: March 07, 2018, 12:17:01 pm »
What are you guys using for a-arm bushing?


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Online NMKawierider

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2018, 12:30:57 pm »
What are you guys using for a-arm bushing?


You can use the OEs yellows or the new black OEs but they are a little pricey. I and many others are using the ASRs for the RzR800s. Some need to be adjusted in length and some will need wear-washers on the ends but all will need glued-in because they don't fit tight enough. I went to the extent of knurling mine and they do fit tight now but the knurling gives a path for grease to flow between the bushing and a-arm tube so it still needs gluing just for the sealing it offers. On a side note you can use your OE sleeves with the ASR bushings as long as they are in good shape. I have some vids in the How-To section as well.
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Offline bezerk1

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2018, 02:19:33 pm »
All you ever wanted to know about front A-arm bushings and more!  Also, I work in Pottsville.
http://cfmoto-forum.com/how-to's/front-suspension-bushing-replacement/

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Offline smprofx

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2018, 05:24:56 am »
Has anyone tried this pack of bushings?

https://www.amazon.com/American-Star-Polaris-fitment-Replacement/dp/B01FIU306M/ref=pd_sim_263_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01FIU306M&pd_rd_r=FSG2HHV39W2JQDDW827X&pd_rd_w=4qad0&pd_rd_wg=Q2oDF&psc=1&refRID=FSG2HHV39W2JQDDW827X

It seams that includes both the long ones which may fit the front and the shorter ones which may fit the back. But I'm a bit concerned that the back bushings may be a bit too short than originals.

The package price is also good for how many pieces are included.

Any thoughts?

I have some play in the back knuckle bushings and I intend to replace all bushings with better ones.

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Online NMKawierider

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2018, 09:03:50 am »
I used that set and one other set of just the long ones to do all mine. The rear knuckles are an odd length and I used that extra set of long ones cut down for those. All needed glued in to keep from rotating in the knuckles or a-arms but very happy with the results. I have some videos in the How-Tos on them.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline glenlivet

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2018, 10:39:16 am »
An honest question, what happens when a glued-in bushing itself needs to be changed? Is there a glue that holds well enough to do the deed and yet has a break-away point where it can allow the bushing to be cleanly pressed out or otherwise removed?
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Online NMKawierider

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2018, 02:23:03 pm »
An honest question, what happens when a glued-in bushing itself needs to be changed? Is there a glue that holds well enough to do the deed and yet has a break-away point where it can allow the bushing to be cleanly pressed out or otherwise removed?
In my last video I showed people how they just snap loose. No problem. I use that E6000 from Lowes. Let it dry over night before putting any grease to it though..if its still wet the grease will just push it out between the tube and the bushing..yeah..done that..:)

Here...it's at minute 4.50

2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline smprofx

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2018, 03:36:02 pm »
So NMKawierider from the package I have pointed in the link, only the long ones can be used. The shorter ones (12 pcs) are of no use in our Z800 machines.. I should better order just the package with 8 pcs of long ones for 32.5 USD, correct?
In total on my Z800 EX I have counted 28 arm bushings for front and back as follow:
- Front A arm upper and lower = 4 pcs - long ones (per wheel)
- Back A arm lower 2 pcs short knuckle articulation + 4 pcs short chassis articulation (per wheel)
- Back A arm upper 2 pcs short chuckles articulation + 2 pcs long chassis articulation (per wheel)

Thank you for clarification!

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Online NMKawierider

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2018, 04:04:32 pm »
So NMKawierider from the package I have pointed in the link, only the long ones can be used. The shorter ones (12 pcs) are of no use in our Z800 machines.. I should better order just the package with 8 pcs of long ones for 32.5 USD, correct?
In total on my Z800 EX I have counted 28 arm bushings for front and back as follow:
- Front A arm upper and lower = 4 pcs - long ones (per wheel)
- Back A arm lower 2 pcs short knuckle articulation + 4 pcs short chassis articulation (per wheel)
- Back A arm upper 2 pcs short chuckles articulation + 2 pcs long chassis articulation (per wheel)

Thank you for clarification!
I used all the short ones..in the rear lower a-arms and the knuckles I believe..I'll check


Yep..lower rear a-arms and upper knuckles..12 in all. All the rest take long ones...and the lower knuckles as I recall need long ones cut down some.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 04:10:13 pm by NMKawierider »
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline smprofx

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2018, 02:40:13 am »
Thank you  NMKawierider for confirmation.
Just ordered a set of mixed lengths 20 pcs and a set with 8 long pcs. This should be enough to cover all arm bushings.

For wheel bearing greaser, which model do you guys for front and back bearings?
 

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Online NMKawierider

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2018, 09:26:38 am »
For wheel bearing greaser, which model do you guys for front and back bearings?
Not sure anyone here has used one. Not really sure what Millimeter the bearing would be. For that matter not sure the CFM style bearing would even work with one of those greasers. 
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2018, 09:38:54 am »
The bearings should be sealed. I have taken a pick and pulled the seal to get geaese in sealed bearings if dry. If you do it nice, the seal will pop right back on.
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline smprofx

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2018, 03:22:34 pm »
Oh... I had the impression that you were using a wheel bearing greaser for maintenance.
I saw on Amazon and eBay different kind of wheel bearing greasers for Polaris RZR 570 / 800 / 1000 and thought you guys use something like this. I remember reading a discussion here followed by a YouTube video showing such a greaser in action.

LE: found this ones https://squareup.com/store/machinedintegrations/ but seams to be only for the front wheels and not the back.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 03:25:14 pm by smprofx »

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Offline Cosmosdan

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2018, 06:31:48 pm »
I don't recall seeing the video. I was interested in how they work and Youtubed it. Looks like it forces grease between the races. If the IDs of the bearings match what they have, might work out.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 06:43:41 pm by Cosmosdan »
2013 Z6 Trail
Iron Baltic skid plates
UE Boom Speaker mount
RZR 800 Shocks
Mostly stock trail riding
25g. Rollers and A1

2016 Outlander max 570
Too new for mods yet

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Offline mike17901

Re: A-arm bushings
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2018, 02:58:36 pm »
hey not sure if anyone is interested but www.gpbushings.com makes a-arm bushing kits for the zforce. They are a little pricey but are lifetime warranty.