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Offline Bish

Some info on the 1000 Zforce
« on: February 25, 2017, 01:14:42 PM »
The following link is to CFMOTO Canada's web site which has some info on the 1000 Zforce, few pictures included.


http://www.cfmoto.ca/en/archives/2017/cfmoto-montreal-hunting-fishing-camping-show

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Offline Sockman

Re: Some info on the 1000 Zforce
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2017, 10:41:44 AM »
Anybody see this floating around on FB?  What a disappointment.  Can't see why you'd buy one over the 800, other than the clutching.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: Some info on the 1000 Zforce
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2017, 11:28:28 AM »
Yeah the torque and hp increases...and at that RPM levels, aren't enough to interest me either. And they weigh more...so.. 
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Offline ctdls

Re: Some info on the 1000 Zforce
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2017, 01:24:57 PM »
I drove one last October while visiting CFMOTO Canada. Power difference is notable, we were on the Quebec trail system & not suppose to tear the trail up. So I could not beat on it hard, none the less  the power improvement is noticeable & good.
ZF 800 LX Trail, stock for now.......not for long.

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Offline glenlivet

Re: Some info on the 1000 Zforce
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2017, 01:43:43 PM »
Something to consider power wise is that when comparing the 800 to the 1000, the resistance to overcome or in other words the horsepower it takes to drive the machine at a steady pace (what an accountant might call in money matters the 'fixed costs') is not much different from the 800 to the 1000. The 1000 weighs a little more and will have a bit more motor frictional losses sure, but not much.
It's the extra power left over from this base load that is your window of 'performance' or potential acceleration.
Both engines pay the same fixed cost of horsepower to push the SXS, and what's left over in each case is the 'jam'. :)

If you have to 'pay' let's say 25 horsepower in combined rolling resistance, engine and drive train resistance (CVTs are notoriously inefficient costing 18% or so of the motor's output in drag), wind resistance etc. to go at a given speed, then you have to subtract that virtually same amount off the available output for either SXS.
62 horsepower-25 on one machine compared to 79 horsepower-25 on the other. All hypothetical numbers but that's the principal.

That'll make the real difference between 62 horse and 79 horse more profound than the numbers look like on the respective spec sheets. I'll bet the 1000 does feel like it has a lot more gitty-up.


Not that I need it myself, the 800 has plenty enough for my humble needs. :D
« Last Edit: September 24, 2017, 02:09:00 PM by glenlivet »
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Offline chuddly

Re: Some info on the 1000 Zforce
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2017, 06:47:02 AM »
My biggest problem with the 1k is not the lack of power that the engine produces (although I am not impressed by it either).  My biggest problem is that its the exact same suspension.  That is where the Z1k falls WAAAAY short of the other 1k offerings out on the market.
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Offline ctdls

Re: Some info on the 1000 Zforce
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2017, 07:28:01 AM »
My biggest problem is that its the exact same suspension.

Agreed, I was going to get after the Z8 shock & spring package. Our back country closure stopped me. Travel is a limiting factor, I think the quality of what we have can be improved.
ZF 800 LX Trail, stock for now.......not for long.