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Offline venom8343

Re: How much different is the 1000 vs 800
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2018, 11:48:39 am »
You're most welcome friend!!  Yes, it seems like a really de-tuned 1000 and it looks an awfully lot like a Rotax engine to me.  Does anyone else feel this way?  It hits the rev limiter at 7600.  I looked up the exhaust for both the 800 and 1000 on Alpha Sports website and the part numbers are different and they look nothing alike so it DOES have a different muffler.  How good is it, well we don't really know. Lol!  I feel that this rig is begging for some more fuel!!  I talked to Dobeck Performance a few weeks ago and they did confirm that they are working on a fuel controller and said that, when it's ready it'll be posted on their website.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: How much different is the 1000 vs 800
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2018, 12:21:21 pm »
Yeah the CFM 800 and 1000 base engines were a loose copy of the Rotax 800 engine. They did add the wet clutch and change the intake system to the 800s and did change some..not all.. measurements in some areas to avoid copyright issues...but its still looks like a Rotax..kinda sounds like one too with that distinctive 80 degree (I think) V.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
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Offline venom8343

Re: How much different is the 1000 vs 800
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2018, 02:39:40 pm »
Yeah the CFM 800 and 1000 base engines were a loose copy of the Rotax 800 engine. They did add the wet clutch and change the intake system to the 800s and did change some..not all.. measurements in some areas to avoid copyright issues...but its still looks like a Rotax..kinda sounds like one too with that distinctive 80 degree (I think) V.
Yes sir, I've noticed the tones were very similar when my buddies fire up their Canned-Hams.  But a Rotax copy is great in my opinion!!  And I honestly do think that this engine has a good bit more to offer with some tuning.

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Offline NMKawierider

Re: How much different is the 1000 vs 800
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2018, 02:43:43 pm »
Yeah the CFM 800 and 1000 base engines were a loose copy of the Rotax 800 engine. They did add the wet clutch and change the intake system to the 800s and did change some..not all.. measurements in some areas to avoid copyright issues...but its still looks like a Rotax..kinda sounds like one too with that distinctive 80 degree (I think) V.
Yes sir, I've noticed the tones were very similar when my buddies fire up their Canned-Hams.  But a Rotax copy is great in my opinion!!  And I honestly do think that this engine has a good bit more to offer with some tuning.
Oh I agree...I just worry a little about the quality of parts they are using in them...lol Now if they were actually using Can Am parts...well, that would be different.
2015 Z Force 800 (53") EPS -
Custom Air Intakes | Custom Exhaust Mod | SuperATV Harness | Custom Fenders | Custom Skid/Rock Sliders | 27" GBC Grim Reapers | Seizmik Mirrors |Конструктор (Rodin's) Doors | Dr Pulley Sliders | 1.5" Wheel Spacers | BENZ Silencer (as needed) | SATV Flip Windshield W\ Rear Shield | Dual Light Bars | Diamond Plate Storage | Magellan TRX7 GPS| Bandit Springs

My Videos On YouTube

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Offline venom8343

Re: How much different is the 1000 vs 800
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2018, 03:53:49 pm »
Yeah the CFM 800 and 1000 base engines were a loose copy of the Rotax 800 engine. They did add the wet clutch and change the intake system to the 800s and did change some..not all.. measurements in some areas to avoid copyright issues...but its still looks like a Rotax..kinda sounds like one too with that distinctive 80 degree (I think) V.
Yes sir, I've noticed the tones were very similar when my buddies fire up their Canned-Hams.  But a Rotax copy is great in my opinion!!  And I honestly do think that this engine has a good bit more to offer with some tuning.
Oh I agree...I just worry a little about the quality of parts they are using in them...lol Now if they were actually using Can Am parts...well, that would be different.

Haha, good point!!

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Offline Procycle98

Re: How much different is the 1000 vs 800
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2018, 12:56:07 pm »
We just ran our bone stock Z1000 (16 miles) in a series of dirt/mud drags against several different machines.  Times and speeds were not recorded but results were.  Distance was 300 FT.

Destroyed a stock RZR 800.
Destroyed a stock Wildcat 700
Easily beat a RZR 900 with pipe, air, PCV
Got beat by less than 1 lenth by stk RZR 1000 and Maverick 1000
Got destroyed by an X3.
'16 Z 800 EX
CFM front bumper
Rigid Industries light bar
Super ATV split windshield
PCV
Twinair filter
Russian door
28" Kanati Mongrels

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Offline glenlivet

Re: How much different is the 1000 vs 800
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2018, 11:38:37 pm »
I do a trick on my 800 that can't be duplicated on a 1000.  8) All in good fun.

For a nation to believe it can tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and believing he can raise himself by pulling on the handle - Winston Churchill

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Offline venom8343

Re: How much different is the 1000 vs 800
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2018, 12:00:18 pm »
Procycle98 - Sir, thank you for taking the time to post that.  I have been wondering about that for quite a while now.

glenlivet - Sir, that is absolutely not happening on a 1000.  As soon as it hits idle going down a hill, that bastard takes off like a rocket!!  Haha!!  Thanks for posting that video though. I've wondered how good the engine brakes were on the 800's, Outstanding!!